Football 2015 Pro Football Hall of Fame Finalists - Page 7

**Rain Man** · 01:46 PM

I don't think we've discussed this yet, so here you go. Up to five of these guys (plus the one senior candidate) can go in. You make the vote when the poll goes up and I release white smoke from the chimney.

The semifinalist list is here if you want to see who got snubbed, which is mostly Albert Lewis, Everson Walls, Clay Matthews, Joe Jacoby, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, and Randall Cunningham: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...php?p=10938513

Edit: Two other finalists weren't in the poll because the profootballhof listed them separately. Bill Polian and Ron Wolf are also finalists if you want to vote for them as write-ins.

suzzer99 · 01-31-2015, 08:03 PM

Odds Charles Haley pulls out his penis at the induction ceremony?

**Gadzooks** · 01-31-2015, 08:03 PM

Coryell deserves to go in before Wolf and Polian. (Actually, all of them)

Deberg_1990 · 01-31-2015, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lahey

I really thought one of the two would get in..more likely Pace than Warner.

I think their problem might be lack of longevity more than anything.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-31-2015, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Coryell deserves to go in before Wolf and Polian. (Actually, all of them)

I agree completely. His legacy is amazing, which also includes multiple Super Bowl wins.

**Bowser** · 01-31-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Odds Charles Haley pulls out his penis at the induction ceremony?

3:1

Rams Fan · 01-31-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

They are not first ballot HoFers and borderline guys anyways.

You are dead wrong about Pace.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-31-2015, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

3:1

From what I've heard, it's more like 12:1

**Reaper16** · 01-31-2015, 08:25 PM

I don't know what the bigger joke is: Bettis getting in or Pace not.

Rams Fan · 01-31-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I don't know what the bigger joke is: Bettis getting in or Pace not.

It's a ****ing joke he didn't get in first ballot. Warner, fine, I understand. His case is definitely more difficult to argue for. However, Pace has a ****ing stat invented after him and was dominant for a decade.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-31-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I don't know what the bigger joke is: Bettis getting in or Pace not.

The Bettis selection is very troubling but it opens the door to several other mediocre running backs that surpassed 10,000 yards in rushing.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-31-2015, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

It's a ****ing joke he didn't get in first ballot. Warner, fine, I understand. His case is definitely more difficult to argue for. However, Pace has a ****ing stat invented after him and was dominant for a decade.

I think Warner should go before Pace, but believe that both will get in soon.

Warner's career was a storybook fable.

Pace's career was expected.

**Reaper16** · 01-31-2015, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think Warner should go before Pace, but believe that both will get in soon.

Warner's career was a storybook fable.

Pace's career was expected.

Where do you see Pace among OTs all-time? Is he a top 5 OT ever? Top 10? Not even?

Rams Fan · 01-31-2015, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think Warner should go before Pace, but believe that both will get in soon.

Warner's career was a storybook fable.

Pace's career was expected.

I think Warner has a harder case to make because from 2003-2006, he did not play at the level he played from 1999-2002 and 2007-2009. But he did resurrect 2 different franchises, which I think should lead to him being recognized in Canton.

But Pace was arguably one of, if not the, best players at his position from 1997-2006.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-31-2015, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Where do you see Pace among OTs all-time? Is he a top 5 OT ever? Top 10? Not even?

My opinion was that he was a very, very, very good left tackle but I'd venture to guess, based on my memory, that's he's outside of the Top 10.

Maybe it's because he was so smooth, maybe it's because Kurt Warner had such a quick a release but after Kurt, there wasn't a lot of success in the running game or passing game, so it's difficult for me, off the top of my head, to say he's an all time great.

Compare that to Will Shields, where no matter who ran the ball or passed, the QB wasn't getting sacked and the backs were always picking up huge yards.

Different position, I know but if we're talking Hall of Fame...

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-31-2015, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I think Warner has a harder case to make because from 2003-2006, he did not play at the level he played from 1999-2002 and 2007-2009. But he did resurrect 2 different franchises, which I think should lead to him being recognized in Canton.

But Pace was arguably one of, if not the, best players at his position from 1997-2006.

Kurt Warner went from sacker to the World League to breaking Marino's records, leading a crap franchise to two Super Bowls, with one win, to leading yet another crap franchise to within 2 minutes a Super Bowl win.

Orlando Pace's record in comparison is a joke. Left tackles don't win Super Bowls.

View Poll Results: Vote for up to five, plus a senior candidate if you wish.
Will Shields	100	84.03%
Tony Dungy	10	8.40%
Tim Brown	51	42.86%
Terrell Davis	11	9.24%
Orlando Pace	53	44.54%
Kurt Warner	57	47.90%
Junior Seau	58	48.74%
Marvin Harrison	37	31.09%
Morten Andersen	23	19.33%
Kevin Greene	29	24.37%
John Lynch	9	7.56%
Jimmy Johnson	16	13.45%
Jerome Bettis	16	13.45%
Don Coryell	41	34.45%
Charles Haley	37	31.09%
Senior Candidate - Mick Tingelhoff	11	9.24%
I'm not voting for anybody until Deron Cherry and Otis Taylor get in.	8	6.72%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 119. You may not vote on this poll

01-15-2015, 01:37 PM
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