Chiefs CP weighs in- thoughts on a trade for RG3 - Page 7

Dante84 · 03:59 PM

BUMP EDIT - This thread is from last year

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Spoiler!

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Okay, so rumor is they are trying to trade him now.

Obviously our #3 played very well. If Chase gets traded to a QB needy team for 2nd or 3rd, what are your thoughts on bringing RG3 in as our backup for a late round pick (6th, 7th)?

Is he salvageable, or did the Redskins ruin him?

ToxSocks · 11-26-2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Anyway, he's mentally broken it seems

This. But, he could turn it around. You never know.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-26-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It's funny to see OldSchool talk like this, yet what was Alex smith in his first years in San fran?

Smith wasn't a Nike and Subway endorser before ever playing his first game. Smith wasn't a media sensation before he ever played a game. Smith's jersey wasn't the #1 selling jersey before he stepped on the field.

Smith wasn't coached up by Mike Shanahan two years in a row, followed by another QB guru in Gruden.

Different circumstances altogether.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-26-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

"He didn't have any surrounding talent"

"He's always been a team-first guy, not a me-first like RGIII"

"Alex was only 21 when he entered the league"

"He had the worst coaches ever"

That should just about cover any of his rebuttals.

Those are also completely true.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-26-2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

This. But, he could turn it around. You never know.

No one knows, that's for certain. But where's the empirical evidence that states it's more likely than not?

FlaChief58 · 11-26-2014, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because there's virtually no way the guy will take a backup job.

If not, then so be it, he can go to a bottom feeder like the bucs. If he wants to save his nfl career, KC isn't a bad place to do that

Reerun_KC · 11-26-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58

If not, then so be it, he can go to a bottom feeder like the bucs. If he wants to save his nfl career, KC isn't a bad place to do that

too many other needs to waste money on a dumpster fire like RGtree

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-26-2014, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58

If not, then so be it, he can go to a bottom feeder like the bucs. If he wants to save his nfl career, KC isn't a bad place to do that

If he's traded, he won't have any choice as to where he goes. If he's a free agent, that's a different story entirely.

Mr. Laz · 11-26-2014, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If he's traded, he won't have any choice as to where he goes. If he's a free agent, that's a different story entirely.

If he leaves Washington he will almost certainly be traded. They Redskins will want a conditional pick so that the value of the trade is not immediately known to get people off their backs.

ToxSocks · 11-26-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because there's virtually no way the guy will take a backup job.

Not yet at least....

Dante84 · 11-26-2014, 05:08 PM

He won't be a free agent; they arent going to cut him outright - he has value and they can get something for him.

Just like Sproles and the Saints. He was about to be cut and pick his team, and then they traded him to Philly. He and his wife were pissed. It all worked out, but the team will always try to get something in return if its a possibility.

RG3 will get traded. And I don't think they are going to put heavy consideration into "where he wants to go." The dude is forcing their hand by sucking and whatnot, so they will ship him to the place that is the best for the team.

That team could be the Chiefs:
- because we are in the AFC and they'll avoid the risk of him tearing it up inside their conference.
- because we have a starter and he won't light up the league immediately, creating another PR nightmare for Washington
- because we have a ton of picks and may be more willing to part with one for the risk involved

May not be the Chiefs:
- because they don't think the juice is worth the squeeze
- because another team may value him more and will outbid them

ToxSocks · 11-26-2014, 05:11 PM

Or

-because they don't want the distraction and don't want Alex looking over his shoulder every week.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-26-2014, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Or

-because they don't want the distraction and don't want Alex looking over his shoulder every week.

Yep. They're not paying Alex $17 million per to look over his shoulder.

OldSchool · 11-26-2014, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84

He won't be a free agent; they arent going to cut him outright - he has value and they can get something for him.

Just like Sproles and the Saints. He was about to be cut and pick his team, and then they traded him to Philly. He and his wife were pissed. It all worked out, but the team will always try to get something in return if its a possibility.

RG3 will get traded. And I don't think they are going to put heavy consideration into "where he wants to go." The dude is forcing their hand by sucking and whatnot, so they will ship him to the place that is the best for the team.

That team could be the Chiefs:
- because we are in the AFC and they'll avoid the risk of him tearing it up inside their conference.
- because we have a starter and he won't light up the league immediately, creating another PR nightmare for Washington
- because we have a ton of picks and may be more willing to part with one for the risk involved

May not be the Chiefs:
- because they don't think the juice is worth the squeeze
- because another team may value him more and will outbid them

If they trade him for a conditional pick, why wouldn't they want to send him somewhere where he has a shot at starting?

Again, there are teams who actually need a starting QB who will be able to offer better draft picks than we will be able to. If they trade him for a conditional draft pick based on production/playing time, there is no way that RG3 is coming to KC.

jonzie04 · 11-26-2014, 05:17 PM

Id love to have him at the right price. Only thing is though hed have to sign a non franchise qb 15+m contravt. And youd have to keep a solid number 2 qb in the stable.

Dante84 · 11-26-2014, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

Id love to have him at the right price. Only thing is though hed have to sign a non franchise qb 15+m contravt. And youd have to keep a solid number 2 qb in the stable.

If you trade for him, you get his current contract, which is a rookie deal.

11-26-2014, 02:12 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1241996 VARSITY	CP weighs in- thoughts on a trade for RG3 BUMP EDIT - This thread is from last year Original Post: Spoiler! Facts: - He has not played well - ~~He has not been surrounded by talent~~ - me being dumb. - He has not had consistent, great coaching or organizational structure - He has a huge arm - He is more mobile than most nfl qb's even after his knee injuries Guys on espn just said he may get dealt for a 4th or 5th. If that's the price, I would love to use one of our bazillion picks on the former heisman winner. He sits behind Alex for two years, learns Reid's offense and understands the value of making smart football decisions. He would cost very little thanks to the rookie wage scale and his now de-valued second contract. If it doesn't pan out, oh well. I love the idea. Updated/New Post: Okay, so rumor is they are trying to trade him now. Obviously our #3 played very well. If Chase gets traded to a QB needy team for 2nd or 3rd, what are your thoughts on bringing RG3 in as our backup for a late round pick (6th, 7th)? Is he salvageable, or did the Redskins ruin him? Last edited by Dante84; 08-30-2015 at 03:59 PM..
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11-26-2014, 05:08 PM	#100
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $1241996 VARSITY	He won't be a free agent; they arent going to cut him outright - he has value and they can get something for him. Just like Sproles and the Saints. He was about to be cut and pick his team, and then they traded him to Philly. He and his wife were pissed. It all worked out, but the team will always try to get something in return if its a possibility. RG3 will get traded. And I don't think they are going to put heavy consideration into "where he wants to go." The dude is forcing their hand by sucking and whatnot, so they will ship him to the place that is the best for the team. That team could be the Chiefs: - because we are in the AFC and they'll avoid the risk of him tearing it up inside their conference. - because we have a starter and he won't light up the league immediately, creating another PR nightmare for Washington - because we have a ton of picks and may be more willing to part with one for the risk involved May not be the Chiefs: - because they don't think the juice is worth the squeeze - because another team may value him more and will outbid them __________________ ..
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jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5736817	Id love to have him at the right price. Only thing is though hed have to sign a non franchise qb 15+m contravt. And youd have to keep a solid number 2 qb in the stable.
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