Football Looking ahead to Sunday Night - Page 7

Mile High Mania · 11-24-2014, 10:34 AM

What can the last game at KC tell us ... if anything? First glance, KC let off the throttle - enjoyed a 1H lead thanks to the KO return and Manning/Decker were insanely in synch, especially after halftime.

Should be a cold one, as the high looks like 37 with a low of 29 - so at kickoff it's likely freezing. We'll see, the high on Saturday is 57 and on Monday it's 46, but it doesn't look like it will be wet, so that's good.

The game @ KC a year ago had much warmer temp on 12/1 with 55 degrees at kickoff, so it will be about 20 degrees colder for SNF. Simply being cold and loud is ok, not ideal - but ok.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...1312010kan.htm

Last year, the Chiefs were up 21-14 at the half and down 35-21 with 7 minutes left before they scored, making it a 35-28 victory.

KC scored a TD on a 108 yd KO return (Davis), had more rushing yards as a team, won the TO battle and ended with a slight advantage on TOP. And while intercepting Manning twice - they couldn't stop him, and with the KC offense not being set up to win a passing battle, it hurt KC. Although, Smith had nearly 300 yards and 2 TDs.

Eric Decker went nuts (4 TDs total) as he caught 3 in the 2nd half, with Manning throwing for 5 TDs and over 400 yds. Montee Ball actually had a good day. Decker and Ball our gone, replaced by Sanders and CJ Anderson this year.

Travis Kelce is a big add for KC in this one and we'll see what they can do with Avant. Denver's defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down and TEs kill them.

I don't see a combined point total over 60 points again - more like 20-17 (KC), but we'll see what happens.

Manning is only 2 TDs and 243 yards off his record pace in 2013 through 11 games, but the ground game is different now ... and while the defense should be better, they haven't played like it lately consistently enough.

Denver needs Julius back in the lineup.. interestingly enough, he didn't play last year in KC either. Julius returning to the lineup is key for me if Denver can win. If Julius isn't playing, Denver loses... I just think he means that much in a game like this on the road.

Say what you will about reverse mojo, but I'm not expecting a Denver win here... not after the way they've played over the last month.

Obviously, I'm fine being wrong here. Let's have some fun this week.

**Rausch** · 11-24-2014, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Since the Ed Hoculi debacle pre-Manning.

I loathe that man like no other ref...

MagicHef · 11-24-2014, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

It's not the quantity of calls but WHEN they happen. Are you really that blind?

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I suppose so... you'll need to be specific with a few references in 2-3 games this year, otherwise it's just belly-aching.

I'd say a good example would be when Miami absolutely needed a TD, they suddenly got 35 penalty yards to help them drive down the field.

Another would be when Manning threw a TD to Tamme, they called OPI, erasing the TD and setting the Broncos back 10 yards.

Those would be 2 examples off the top of my head where the timing of the penalty mattered more than the yardage.

Mile High Mania · 11-24-2014, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I'd say a good example would be when Miami absolutely needed a TD, they suddenly got 35 penalty yards to help them drive down the field.

Another would be when Manning threw a TD to Tamme, they called OPI, erasing the TD and setting the Broncos back 10 yards.

Those would be 2 examples off the top of my head where the timing of the penalty mattered more than the yardage.

You're playing this wrong... the refs love Denver, that's why we win games.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-24-2014, 03:31 PM

Any call against Denver is legit.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-24-2014, 03:32 PM

Well duh they run illegal picks on every play. Gotta call a couple. Those calls Miami got were pretty damn obvious.

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-24-2014, 03:32 PM

They're also extremely rare.

Chiefspants · 11-24-2014, 03:35 PM

Peyton "Papa John" Manning would be a 3-7-1 QB if he didn't have the officials, Goddell and Crisco in his pocket.

36,000 pounds of crisco goes missing in October and now just watch the Broncos go on another slippery 1997 run this February.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_26718838/

Tombstone RJ · 11-24-2014, 03:37 PM

Broncos are one of the most penalized teams in the NFL and Von Miller gets held on almost every single play and it's never called. The refs will flag Denver for holding on a player like Quinn but they won't flag the rams for holding Miller or Ware. This happens all the time.

Mile High Mania · 11-24-2014, 03:39 PM

Dunno how accurate the site is, but it looks good.

Through 11 games, only 2 (IND and SEA) times did the Broncos have fewer penalties than their opponent. You can do all sorts of break downs on this site.

http://www.nflpenalties.com/team/den...ncos?year=2014

Chiefspants · 11-24-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Dunno how accurate the site is, but it looks good.

Through 11 games, only 2 (IND and SEA) times did the Broncos have fewer penalties than their opponent. You can do all sorts of break downs on this site.

http://www.nflpenalties.com/team/den...ncos?year=2014

Cognitive Dissonance tells me to disagree with this.

Peyton's 12th man will be the referee, 13th will be the Crisco, 14th will be the violated cap size.

Chiefs can't win against 14 men on the field. Cheating Donks.

Mile High Mania · 11-24-2014, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Cognitive Dissonance tells me to disagree with this.

Peyton's 12th man will be the referee, 13th will be the Crisco, 14th will be the violated cap size.

Chiefs can't win against 14 men on the field. Cheating Donks.

Tombstone RJ · 11-24-2014, 03:49 PM

Another favorable schedule for KC too. The NFL always seems to make Denver go to KC in the second half of the schedule and it's happening again this year.

**Easy 6** · 11-24-2014, 03:50 PM

Broncos 277 - Chiefs 9

Bundle up your jerseys and memorabilia and soak them in charcoal fluid now, it'll make burning them that much easier sunday night.

Chiefspants · 11-24-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Another favorable schedule for KC too. The NFL always seems to make Denver go to KC in the second half of the schedule and it's happening again this year.

Denver had their first 10 games at home this year.

Mile High Mania · 11-24-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Denver had their first 10 games at home this year. That's a fact.

That's unpossible. And, with an older team that had a bye week in week 4... I'd much rather avoid having the early home games.

They also started right out of the gate with IND, KC, SEA, AZ, SF ... they didn't get it easy.

11-24-2014, 10:34 AM
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3267229	Looking ahead to Sunday Night What can the last game at KC tell us ... if anything? First glance, KC let off the throttle - enjoyed a 1H lead thanks to the KO return and Manning/Decker were insanely in synch, especially after halftime. Should be a cold one, as the high looks like 37 with a low of 29 - so at kickoff it's likely freezing. We'll see, the high on Saturday is 57 and on Monday it's 46, but it doesn't look like it will be wet, so that's good. The game @ KC a year ago had much warmer temp on 12/1 with 55 degrees at kickoff, so it will be about 20 degrees colder for SNF. Simply being cold and loud is ok, not ideal - but ok. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...1312010kan.htm Last year, the Chiefs were up 21-14 at the half and down 35-21 with 7 minutes left before they scored, making it a 35-28 victory. KC scored a TD on a 108 yd KO return (Davis), had more rushing yards as a team, won the TO battle and ended with a slight advantage on TOP. And while intercepting Manning twice - they couldn't stop him, and with the KC offense not being set up to win a passing battle, it hurt KC. Although, Smith had nearly 300 yards and 2 TDs. Eric Decker went nuts (4 TDs total) as he caught 3 in the 2nd half, with Manning throwing for 5 TDs and over 400 yds. Montee Ball actually had a good day. Decker and Ball our gone, replaced by Sanders and CJ Anderson this year. Travis Kelce is a big add for KC in this one and we'll see what they can do with Avant. Denver's defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down and TEs kill them. I don't see a combined point total over 60 points again - more like 20-17 (KC), but we'll see what happens. Manning is only 2 TDs and 243 yards off his record pace in 2013 through 11 games, but the ground game is different now ... and while the defense should be better, they haven't played like it lately consistently enough. Denver needs Julius back in the lineup.. interestingly enough, he didn't play last year in KC either. Julius returning to the lineup is key for me if Denver can win. If Julius isn't playing, Denver loses... I just think he means that much in a game like this on the road. Say what you will about reverse mojo, but I'm not expecting a Denver win here... not after the way they've played over the last month. Obviously, I'm fine being wrong here. Let's have some fun this week.
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Chiefspants World's Best Boss Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bronco Country Casino cash: $5654654	Peyton "Papa John" Manning would be a 3-7-1 QB if he didn't have the officials, Goddell and Crisco in his pocket. 36,000 pounds of crisco goes missing in October and now just watch the Broncos go on another slippery 1997 run this February. http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_26718838/
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Tombstone RJ Broncos' Fan Extraordinaire! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver Casino cash: $10012184	Broncos are one of the most penalized teams in the NFL and Von Miller gets held on almost every single play and it's never called. The refs will flag Denver for holding on a player like Quinn but they won't flag the rams for holding Miller or Ware. This happens all the time. __________________ ORANGE COLORED GLASSES ARE ALWAYS ON!
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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3267229	Dunno how accurate the site is, but it looks good. Through 11 games, only 2 (IND and SEA) times did the Broncos have fewer penalties than their opponent. You can do all sorts of break downs on this site. http://www.nflpenalties.com/team/den...ncos?year=2014 __________________
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Tombstone RJ Broncos' Fan Extraordinaire! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver Casino cash: $10012184	Another favorable schedule for KC too. The NFL always seems to make Denver go to KC in the second half of the schedule and it's happening again this year. __________________ ORANGE COLORED GLASSES ARE ALWAYS ON!
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