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Old 12-09-2012, 04:10 PM  
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Chiefs have all but locked up top 3 pick
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With wins by CAR, CLE and PHI today, JAX, OAK, and KC have all but guaranteed themselves a top 3 pick in April. Draft order coming tonight.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:27 PM   #91
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Is Carson Palmer a top 10 QB? Because if he isn't, QB is without a question your issue.
I tend to believe that the Raiders are just stupid enough not to draft a QB in the first this year.

I'm betting they take Jones.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:29 PM   #92
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I tend to believe that the Raiders are just stupid enough not to draft a QB in the first this year.

I'm betting they take Jones.
Like I said before, it's obviously Palmer's fault that our defense is so bad...right?
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:38 PM   #93
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I hope to hell the Raiders don't take a QB this year. Go ahead and build that 8-8 roster around an aging Palmer. They won't get Geno/Wilson talent when they are drafting at 15 in a couple years and will be in QB purgatory.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:40 PM   #94
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If we've learned anything, which being Chiefs fans, we haven't. When you start to build the thing, you start with the QB.


No exceptions. You don't build it up around him so he can step in.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:47 PM   #95
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If we've learned anything, which being Chiefs fans, we haven't. When you start to build the thing, you start with the QB.


No exceptions. You don't build it up around him so he can step in.
I bet if you gave Gronkowski and Megatron to the Raiders they'd be lighting it up. By contrast, if you gave Brady to the current roster, not much would change. I don't know what else to say to you.
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Im not 100% sure that the Raiders would take a QB in the top 3. I'd bet they go defense and try and grab a QB in the 2nd or 3rd.
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I bet if you gave Gronkowski and Megatron to the Raiders they'd be lighting it up. By contrast, if you gave Brady to the current roster, not much would change. I don't know what else to say to you.
Brady wouldn't have that Raiders team playing better football?

**** you and your stupidity.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:49 PM   #98
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Brady wouldn't have that Raiders team playing better football?

**** you and your stupidity.
You haven't watched many Raiders games I take it.

Because Brady must have magic passes that hit the receivers in the hands that they CATCH, while Palmer's passes hit them in the hands and they drop it.

You know, at some point it's on your receivers to make a damn play.
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Brady wouldn't have that Raiders team playing better football?

**** you and your stupidity.
Quoted for truth.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:50 PM   #100
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Brady wouldn't have that Raiders team playing better football?

**** you and your stupidity.
This.
That is as bad as saying that a healthy Manning would have improved the donkos the way he has.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:50 PM   #101
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I bet if you gave Gronkowski and Megatron to the Raiders they'd be lighting it up. By contrast, if you gave Brady to the current roster, not much would change. I don't know what else to say to you.
I don't agree with that. Also, just because the rest of your roster is the reason you are struggling doesn't mean you have a QB capable of winning a SB.
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You haven't watched many Raiders games I take it.

Because Brady must have magic passes that hit the receivers in the hands that they CATCH, while Palmer's passes hit them in the hands and they drop it.

You know, at some point it's on your receivers to make a damn play.
You know man it has to be bad for you guys. You all have been drafting toward the top, including a #1, for what seems like a decade. That team should be loaded with talent with all of the top picks the faid has had over that time frame.
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You know man it has to be bad for you guys. You all have been drafting toward the top, including a #1, for what seems like a decade. That team should be loaded with talent with all of the top picks the faid has had over that time frame.
There's an insult there but nothing that addressed my argument.

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Old 12-10-2012, 12:01 AM   #104
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Or trade for Kirk Cousins.
I think the Chiefs 2nd round pick would be enough.
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There's an insult there but nothing that addressed my argument.

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Wasn't trying to insult but I sure do know that the truth does hurt sometimes. I am a Chiefs fan after all.

I didn't address your argument because I feel like it has already been debunked.
Brady would get more out of everyone on that team. He would demand it. The receivers would do more work and study harder. Just the way it goes.

The overall point is you can satisfy any position on a football team easier than the starting QB outside of the top 5. Palmer doesn't have much left in the tank. Don't know much about Pryor that you all got in the suplemental last year either though.
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