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Old 11-24-2008, 10:41 AM  
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McDaniels & Cassel?
From everything I've heard, there's likely to be a package deal this next offseason: Josh McDaniels (current New England Patriots offensive coordinator) as head coach, Matt Cassel as starting QB for some team.

McDaniels is likely to land a head coaching gig somewhere, and Cassel is likely to land a starting QB spot somewhere. Some are saying, depending on the situation, they could both head to the same team.

Maybe Kansas City could be a good fit for both of them? What do you guys think?
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:04 PM   #91
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Isn't this the dumbass who has resurfaced bashing pretty much what he asked for in 2008?
Yep. He doesn't respond to any of it when you bring it up though.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:05 PM   #92
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Just curious, what would it take to convince you?

He has almost identical numbers to Brady after 11 games.
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He's been sacked more than any QB in the league - 34 times.

This is nowhere near the same OL that Brady produced almost identical numbers behind in his first 11 games.
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I'm not saying he's not prone to hold on to the ball, but the Pats OL has been a revolving door this season due to injuries.

Regardless, it comes back to one thing.

People here aren't willing to give a guy credit unless he was a high pick.

He's a backup, 7th round pick that is the 8th ranked QB in the league in yardage, 11th in QB rating, and has lead his team (who the entire free world left for dead 10 minutes into the season) to a 7-4 record and a great shot at a playoff spot.

Why is is that hard to appreciate what he's done, instead of giving everyone on that team credit BUT Cassel?
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:26 PM   #93
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Yep...

But to be honest, Hamas owned this thread.

Maybe he should get a job in the front office.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:28 PM   #94
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Either Detroit or the Vikings for Cassel.

Perhaps even the Jets as an heir to Favre?
i would take Favre in a heartbeat over Cassel-at least he would be able to throw it more than 10 yards.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:41 PM   #95
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I'm shocked there was one point in time that OTWP defended Cassel.
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:42 PM   #96
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Old 09-21-2011, 12:44 PM   #97
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I'm shocked there was one point in time that OTWP defended Cassel.
I missed this thread. I'm not even sure what to say about his comments regarding Cassel.
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:27 PM   #98
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I'm shocked there was one point in time that OTWP defended Cassel.
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I missed this thread. I'm not even sure what to say about his comments regarding Cassel.
Notice that NOWHERE in those comments did I say I wanted him here.

At the time, he was worthy of defending. Patriots fans thought their season was over the minute Brady's knee exploded. Cassel at least gave them a chance.

Now, had I said I wanted him here, and that he deserved to be a starter here and be given a $60M contract, you'd have a point.

Defending him as a backup and member of the New England Patriots does not equal wanting him here, and my posts once the possibility became stronger reflects that.
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:39 PM   #99
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Notice that NOWHERE in those comments did I say I wanted him here.

At the time, he was worthy of defending. Patriots fans thought their season was over the minute Brady's knee exploded. Cassel at least gave them a chance.

Now, had I said I wanted him here, and that he deserved to be a starter here and be given a $60M contract, you'd have a point.

Defending him as a backup and member of the New England Patriots does not equal wanting him here, and my posts once the possibility became stronger reflects that.
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Old 09-21-2011, 02:21 PM   #100
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Notice that NOWHERE in those comments did I say I wanted him here.

At the time, he was worthy of defending. Patriots fans thought their season was over the minute Brady's knee exploded. Cassel at least gave them a chance.

Now, had I said I wanted him here, and that he deserved to be a starter here and be given a $60M contract, you'd have a point.

Defending him as a backup and member of the New England Patriots does not equal wanting him here, and my posts once the possibility became stronger reflects that.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:12 PM   #101
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Isn't this the dumbass who has resurfaced bashing pretty much what he asked for in 2008?
We were in the middle of the Herm/Carl fiasco... anything appeared to be an upgrade at that point.

2008 was a long time ago... that was 2 "I quits" ago for Urban Meyer.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:14 PM   #102
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Cassel is going to be a starter somewhere. If Matt Schaub is tradeable to a team as a starter, then Cassel sure as hell is.
Yeah this statement doesn't look dumb 3 years later... NOT.

Comparing Cassel to Schaub?
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We were in the middle of the Herm/Carl fiasco... anything appeared to be an upgrade at that point.

2008 was a long time ago... that was 2 "I quits" ago for Urban Meyer.
Funny. Just admit you were wrong and move on.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:19 PM   #104
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Yeah this statement doesn't look dumb 3 years later... NOT.

Comparing Cassel to Schaub?
Are you seriously calling someone else out in this thread?
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This thread is hilarious!

Here is what I thought of Cassel prior and immediately after joining the KC Chiefs.

When rumors of us bringing in Cassel started in December, so about the exact same time this thread popped up.. long before the very idea started pissing me off:

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Cassel plays on a stacked offense that set all kinds of records last season.

I don't think he'll have near this kind of success anywhere else he plays.
When someone claimed Pioli knew better:

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I think Pioli has a biased opinion.

I told Pats fans they could win 10 or 11 games with a below average QB because the offense was stacked. I stand by that. Cassel is average at best.

I'll be glad to be proven wrong, but nothing about the kid impresses me. He's not Len Dawson. He's not a great QB or hidden Gem. He's an average QB who stepped into a totally stacked cast and played solid but not great.
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Awesome.

Now we have 2 average to below average QB's.

I'd rather take Sanchez than Cassel. We better win, because I'm not impressed with Pioli and Haley's first off-season even a little.
A post mocking Cassel's stats, and featuring a comment that a lot of people got on me for:

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I liked the stats.

Cassel's star studded offense did most of the work for him. That's why Brady had a QB rating of one million with the same cast.

Damon Huard could have done what Cassel did in NE last year. I won't back down from that either.
I never understood it. Damon Huard put up BETTER stats on a WORSE team. The guy was better than Cassel, and I never have backed down from that. Cassel sucks, and he sucked before KC stupidly gave him a ton of money for that suckage.

The dumbest thing I said was that I thought Cassel was average. He wishes.
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