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Well. That escalated quickly.
Ive decided that Im not doing it. Im not firing him just because I was told to do it, and in a chickenshit manner the likes of calling him up and saying he's fired. If Boss wants him gone, he can do it. He's the one with the problem. If I get doc'd for insubordination, so be it. Those forms DO go to corporate. I wont be losing my job, and a full explanation of the circumstances of my "insubordination" will be given and someone outside of the "Good ol Boy Network" will get to take a look at what's going on. Ill provide that information when I deliver my decision, and then let the chips fall where they may. Joe will probably still get fired, even though it's bullshit, but I wont be the one doing it.
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11-16-2014, 06:24 AM | #97 |
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Office politics. One of multiple reasons I started my own company.
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11-16-2014, 06:53 AM | #98 |
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I think you are looking at this all wrong, it is not about Joe or the company it is about you. I think it’s a thing called integrity. How do you want your employees to see you? As a person that will not stand up for them, or a leader that will always do what’s right. Your call
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Joe should have had the street smarts to know that he was risking his job when he refused to comply with the selfish demands of the boss. So when you call to notify of him of termination (and you will!), you simply also inform him that the boss instructed you to do the firing and that he also insisted that it be done over the phone.
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I got jerked around by my company about two weeks ago, got pissed off and starting looking. Within two days I had several offers and negotiated with a great new company, I start December 1st. The owner of the new company would have damn near given me his house to come to work for him. I told him what I needed to come over (which was the moon) and he gave me more than I asked for, much more. He even threw in 2 instant bonus weeks of vacation (paid) so I could take my annual trip to Belize in Feb. I got more respect from him in 5 minutes than I did from my current employer in 5 years. I will walk through fire for this guy and make him a lot of money.
I'm going into work tomorrow and putting in my two weeks notice. What I really want to do is walk in, bounce the truck keys off the owners chest and say "consider that my resignation slap dick," but as hard as it is, I'm going to take the high road and offer up my two weeks. They will likely get butt hurt and tell me to just leave, but I'm good with that and hope that's the way things go down. I wouldn't mind the two weeks to get things done around the house and if I'm there for two weeks with nothing to lose, things could get a little western. It's best just to stick a fork in this one, it's done. I've already talked to my top customers about the move in person one on one and they know why I'm hitting the road and that's all I really cared about. I will be selling to all of them with my new company in two weeks. My soon to be former company will be out in the cold holding their Johnson's trying to figure out where several million dollars worth of pending orders went. I won't lie it's going to be a great Monday.
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The real bottom line: OP is risking his neck for someone that chose his own fate, the employee that is going to be fired made his choice when he talked shit to the person that can and apparently will fire him, all bullshit surrounding the issue aside. If someone is your boss and has the power to fire you, you keep your mouth shut or you keep your job. He made his choice. That simple. |
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Meet the guy for coffee somewhere and tell him in person. If you really believe he put in effort, tell him what he's done wrong too and give him honest feedback.
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I was prepared to compose a post discussing business ethics, treating employees how you would want to be treated, firing via text/phone call being a douche/cowardly thing to do.....and that your boss is a putz. Not sure I'd want to pin my long term hopes on a comany that allows people to be treated that way........in th emean time, express to Skippy why you don't feel this is the right approach, and then do it. Let the guy know you don't agree with the method when you call, but let's face it....he already knows your boss is a douche.
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