Misc Conceal Carry weapon choices - Page 7

Holladay · 01-03-2017, 06:50 PM

Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search.

I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military)

My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well.

Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state.

I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista).

We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400.

We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs".

My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze.

I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home.

Thoughts?

Holladay · 01-04-2017, 07:10 PM

I am talking notes of all your ideas. Thanks.

I have scheduled a CC course for the both of us this Sunday in Whiting Ks. 1:00 pm til 7:00 pm. They will cover a lot of info I have been asking. Turns out that KS reciprocates with about every state. I don't know if she can get it in time for her cross country run thou.

Anybody in this area that wants CC. I would be glad to link up.

I will report back later.

Randallflagg · 01-04-2017, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Holladay

I am talking notes of all your ideas. Thanks.

I have scheduled a CC course for the both of us this Sunday in Whiting Ks. 1:00 pm til 7:00 pm. They will cover a lot of info I have been asking. Turns out that KS reciprocates with about every state. I don't know if she can get it in time for her cross country run thou.

Anybody in this area that wants CC. I would be glad to link up.

I will report back later.

I hope you'll forgive me for this stupid question, but are you going to the CCW course merely for training? or some other reason? There is Constitutional Carry in Kansas, is the only reason I'm asking..

**PHOG** · 01-04-2017, 08:34 PM

Sawed-off Breakover Double Barrel 10 Gauge..Can't go wrong.

**PHOG** · 01-04-2017, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holladay

I am talking notes of all your ideas. Thanks.

I have scheduled a CC course for the both of us this Sunday in Whiting Ks. 1:00 pm til 7:00 pm. They will cover a lot of info I have been asking. Turns out that KS reciprocates with about every state. I don't know if she can get it in time for her cross country run thou.

Anybody in this area that wants CC. I would be glad to link up.

I will report back later.

**Indian Chief** · 01-04-2017, 09:45 PM

I see a few mentions of the shield. If you look at that also take a peek at the Glock 43. I actually shot one today for the first time and liked it as a CC option.

Holladay · 01-04-2017, 09:59 PM

Not sure...thought we needed a course. If not, anything that can give info for the wife...gun safety etc. thinking money well spent.

From what I understand we need a class to get licensed in CC in kansas??

I have a military background and can teach well...safety.

Thoughts?

DenverChief · 01-04-2017, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Chief

I see a few mentions of the shield. If you look at that also take a peek at the Glock 43. I actually shot one today for the first time and liked it as a CC option.

Love the 43

Delaney37 · 01-04-2017, 10:53 PM

To conceal carry in Kansas you don't need an actual permit. Kansas has a constitutional carry law. The benefits of getting the permit is you get a basic course in safety and the likes plus the reciprocity of other states, meaning other states that recognize the Kansas permit allowing you to conceal carry in that state. There are 10? states with constitutional carry but 42? that honor the Kansas permit. The phone app rockymtnchief was talking about lets you easily see which states accept the Kansas permit. I know if I missed something there are members here that are more knowledgeable than me that will add to or correct my post.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ryan.ccw&hl=en

Randallflagg · 01-05-2017, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holladay

Not sure...thought we needed a course. If not, anything that can give info for the wife...gun safety etc. thinking money well spent.

From what I understand we need a class to get licensed in CC in kansas??

I have a military background and can teach well...safety.

Thoughts?

I'm sorry - Yes, you need a class to be "licensed" to carry, which is good if you plan on traveling to other states. And, I imagine that the class is extremely informative, as well. Training is ALWAYS a good thing.

I carried in the Army - and then as a civilian - on a DoD Badge. Never needed a "permit".

tatorhog · 01-05-2017, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holladay

I am talking notes of all your ideas. Thanks.

I have scheduled a CC course for the both of us this Sunday in Whiting Ks. 1:00 pm til 7:00 pm. They will cover a lot of info I have been asking. Turns out that KS reciprocates with about every state. I don't know if she can get it in time for her cross country run thou.

Anybody in this area that wants CC. I would be glad to link up.

I will report back later.

I know the guy you're talking about. Rick's a good dude. I've dealt with him on various things over the years. I didn't realize that a KS carry had that kind of reach. Might make sense to go ahead a take a class as well.

Holladay · 01-05-2017, 04:08 PM

The reach surprised me as well. Rick stated, get KS, will basically get all.

**Indian Chief** · 01-05-2017, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

Love the 43

After a few magazines I started to warm up to it. I have larger hands so with the standard mag it was too compact for me, but I shot one with the +2 which felt a hell of a lot better.

ping2000 · 01-05-2017, 10:32 PM

Any thoughts on the CZ 75 SP-01?

Viper400 · 01-06-2017, 08:10 AM

I carried the Shield 9mm for years.

Now I carry a CZ P-01 (9MM) mainly during winter months in a pancake holster. Also have a Ruger LCP Custom that I front pocket carry during the summer.

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-01-9m...oy-14-rd-mags/

http://www.ruger.com/news/2015-01-19.html

Radar Chief · 01-06-2017, 10:47 AM

Got Lil'Momma this for Christmas.

S&W .38 Special +P

When I went looking I had a Ruger of the same type in mind planning to put some pink grips on it for her but this Smith came equipped with Crimson Trace grips (built in laser that activates with a momentary switch on the front of the grip so that when you wrap your fingers around the handle the laser comes on). Figured I can't make self defense much simpler than that.

01-03-2017, 06:50 PM
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $1519480	Conceal Carry weapon choices Probably a re-post, didn't see it after a quick search. I am buy no means a gun expert but know my way around them (ex-military) My wife is seriously looking to CC. That thought alone shocked me. She is quite against guns. She is German and with all the issues Germany has now and stuff here in the states, wants to pursue this privilege. I will as well. Another thought is what is the best way to figure out which states allow. I have surfed the web and it is a bit confusing. She will be house sitting in SC for a month. Thus a long trip by herself through many states. As I understand, KY will prove the hardest state. I have taken her out in our back 40 to practice. I have a 9mm CZ 75 that I bought while stationed in Germany. It is similar to the Beretta 9mm. She is a natural. The practice and repetition is the key as we all know. It is to big for CC. She will be carrying in her purse..eer er "hand bag" ( I got corrected from a female fashionista). We are on a budget and not into an elite weapon. Something that goes bang and scares the would be bad guy. I was hoping for less then $400. We have tried a few different types. Revolver vs Semi. Revolver is simpler but limited ammo. Semi is harder to operate but has more "bangs". My parents have a Makarov 9x18. I thought it was junk, but find out it is quite decent. It is a Walther PPK variant. Cheap ~$300. I read a review about women and hand guns. The author stated that a point is the strength/size of women's hands. Thus semi is not a good option unless she is a masseuse. I giggled, because she is. Her hands are as big as mine which are medium/large guys paws. She has had a little problem pulling the slide back and on another old (S&W Defender) revolver the trigger squeeze. I will use the Defender, not necessarily CC, in my car. If I can find ammo for it. That is another problem. The CZ stays at home. Thoughts?
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01-04-2017, 07:10 PM	#91
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $1519480	I am talking notes of all your ideas. Thanks. I have scheduled a CC course for the both of us this Sunday in Whiting Ks. 1:00 pm til 7:00 pm. They will cover a lot of info I have been asking. Turns out that KS reciprocates with about every state. I don't know if she can get it in time for her cross country run thou. Anybody in this area that wants CC. I would be glad to link up. I will report back later.
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01-04-2017, 08:34 PM	#93
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01-04-2017, 09:45 PM	#95
Indian Chief Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $759236	I see a few mentions of the shield. If you look at that also take a peek at the Glock 43. I actually shot one today for the first time and liked it as a CC option.
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01-04-2017, 09:59 PM	#96
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $1519480	Not sure...thought we needed a course. If not, anything that can give info for the wife...gun safety etc. thinking money well spent. From what I understand we need a class to get licensed in CC in kansas?? I have a military background and can teach well...safety. Thoughts?
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01-04-2017, 10:53 PM	#98
Delaney37 Starter Join Date: Jun 2010 Casino cash: $5418800	To conceal carry in Kansas you don't need an actual permit. Kansas has a constitutional carry law. The benefits of getting the permit is you get a basic course in safety and the likes plus the reciprocity of other states, meaning other states that recognize the Kansas permit allowing you to conceal carry in that state. There are 10? states with constitutional carry but 42? that honor the Kansas permit. The phone app rockymtnchief was talking about lets you easily see which states accept the Kansas permit. I know if I missed something there are members here that are more knowledgeable than me that will add to or correct my post. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ryan.ccw&hl=en __________________ "Political correctness is tyranny with manners" Charlton Heston
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01-05-2017, 04:08 PM	#101
Holladay Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $1519480	The reach surprised me as well. Rick stated, get KS, will basically get all.
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01-05-2017, 10:32 PM	#103
ping2000 Changes pants while driving Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Washington D.C. Casino cash: $4420495	Any thoughts on the CZ 75 SP-01?
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01-06-2017, 08:10 AM	#104
Viper400 Starter Join Date: Feb 2012 Casino cash: $9885025	I carried the Shield 9mm for years. Now I carry a CZ P-01 (9MM) mainly during winter months in a pancake holster. Also have a Ruger LCP Custom that I front pocket carry during the summer. http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-01-9m...oy-14-rd-mags/ http://www.ruger.com/news/2015-01-19.html
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01-06-2017, 10:47 AM	#105
Radar Chief Wearing ballistic dog goggles. Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: In the box. Casino cash: $4321503	Got Lil'Momma this for Christmas. S&W .38 Special +P When I went looking I had a Ruger of the same type in mind planning to put some pink grips on it for her but this Smith came equipped with Crimson Trace grips (built in laser that activates with a momentary switch on the front of the grip so that when you wrap your fingers around the handle the laser comes on). Figured I can't make self defense much simpler than that. __________________ Like "Cool Hand" Luke I'm busting rocks. __/\|_/[___] \|/ \\_\| ---OllllO _( ))~-( ))-0--))
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