Poop Walter Football is at it again - Page 7

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 03:56 PM

Poor Walter - still doesn't like the Chiefs.
Even when he says the Ravens have no chance, he still has to point out all the flaws in our "overrated" team.

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Kansas City Chiefs (8-5) at Baltimore Ravens (4-9)
Line: Chiefs by 7.5. Total: 41.5.
Las Vegas Hilton Advance Point Spread: Chiefs -5.
Walt's Calculated Line: Chiefs -6.
Sunday, Dec 20, 1:00 ET
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The Game. Edge: Chiefs.

BALTIMORE OFFENSE: The Ravens made some news Monday by signing Ryan Mallett, who agreed to a contract that allows for 14 missed practices because of broken alarms. It was quite the deal for Mallett, who won't have to worry about being late very often.

In all seriousness, the Mallett addition was first seen as a sign that Matt Schaub wouldn't be available for this contest, but Baltimore simply wanted Mallett to groom him as a backup of the future. It'll be either Schaub or Jimmy Clausen in this matchup, which means pick-sixes or checkdowns. It won't matter very much against a ferocious Kansas City defense that has clamped down on bad offenses quite often recently. Tamba Hali and the emerging Dee Ford are going to completely disrupt Baltimore's offensive rhythm.

The Ravens' only hope is to get the ball early and often to Buck Allen. Wait, I just realized how dumb that sounded. Scratch that, Baltimore has no hope. The Chiefs are tied for eighth versus the run in terms of YPC, and over the past month, they've surrendered just 3.13 YPC.

KANSAS CITY OFFENSE:The Ravens have a well-documented liability on this side of the ball. Their secondary has been in shambles all year, and a lacking pass rush doesn't help matters. However, this might not be the worst matchup for them because Alex Smith doesn't have a habit of connecting on deep passes downfield. In fact, Smith was intercepted on a long try to Jeremy Maclin against the Chargers, as his pass was predictably underthrown.

Smith will have some success dinking and dunking, and he'll also pick up some first downs with his legs. However, there is some concern in this regard, as Baltimore defends tight ends extremely well. Smith may not be able to connect with Travis Kelce all that much, which could force some punts.

The Chiefs, of course, will attempt to establish the run. They may not have Spencer Ware, but that's fine because Charcandrick West can handle the workload on his own. Having said that, West may not have the success that most anticipate. Remember when I said the Chiefs were tied for eighth against the rush? The team they're tied with is Baltimore.

RECAP: The Ravens are another team that will be looking to get back to basics following an embarrassing loss. It's a fair point to wonder if they can actually do that, given the number of injuries they've sustained, but there's no question that they'll be battling a team far worse than Seattle this week. That'll give Baltimore a chance to hang around, and it's worth noting that before the Seattle contest, the Ravens hadn't lost by more than eight points to anyone all year.

As for the Chiefs, they're a very overrated team right now. They could've easily lost their previous two games, and I don't think they'll be completely focused here. Thus, I'm picking Baltimore, but I can't say I have much confidence in the selection; I don't really feel like wagering any money on either Clausen or Schaub unless it's against another bad team (like the Dolphins back in Week 13.)

WEDNESDAY THOUGHTS: This spread is falling a bit to -7 -115 or -120, indicating that there's sharp money on Baltimore. It's too early to say for sure, but there's no way the pros will be on Kansas City. This line is too large.

The Psychology. Edge: Ravens.

I don't think the Ravens will have Kansas City's full attention. They'll be looking to get things right following a blowout loss.

The Vegas. Edge: Ravens.

Everyone is betting the Chiefs, of course.
• Percentage of money on Kansas City: 82% (5,000 bets)

The Trends. Edge: Ravens.
• John Harbaugh is 9-3 ATS following a loss of 10+.
• Opening Line: Chiefs -7.5.
• Opening Total: 43.
• Weather: .

Week 15 NFL Pick: Chiefs 16, Ravens 10
Ravens +7.5 (0 Units)
Under 41.5 (0 Units)

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ARROW2 · 01-12-2016, 01:45 PM

I didn't see anybody else shutting out the Texans at home and making Hoyer look like that. First playoff shoutout in 10 years and it gets glossed over by the same hacks who were sucking Watt off all week.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-12-2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

6 points off of 4 turnovers is pathetic.

Yeah, especially on the road, facing a terrible Texans defense.

ToxSocks · 01-12-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ARROW2

Not when you are playing a top D in their house. As I recall, some of them were in our own territory and did not set up the offense with a short field. The Mauga and Peters picks come to mind.

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Originally Posted by ARROW2

how many games in the NFL have you seen where someone put up a 50 or 60 burger on someone, especially in their house? This is not college against Kent St.

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Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist

The texans were 3rd in yds/g and 7th in pts/g. We weren't playing the Saints here, people. Their defense is legit.

These. How quickly people forget.

**New World Order** · 01-12-2016, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Why do any of you go to this site or care what this nobody says?

I'm sure there are toothless rednecks in Littleton that think the Broncos are still undefeated - that doesn't mean I care about their opinions.

It's comedy gold.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-12-2016, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

It wasn't enough. The Texans were still in the game at halftime despite four turnovers, then came out of the locker room and proceeded to move the ball better than they had all day. Fortunately that drive stalled, and our adjustments after halftime finally got the offense moving.

It was, however, half a game by the offense, yet again, a troubling trend going back over a month. If the same thing happens at Foxboro, the Chiefs absolutely have to take advantage of their opportunities early. Tom Brady is not Brian Hoyer. If they leave even the smallest crack for him to exploit, he'll take the game back from them.

Of course, as I just said, he's not Brian Hoyer. He probably won't keep giving them opportunity after opportunity until they finally decide to take advantage. Maybe he turns it over once. Or twice. Or not at all. If he does give them anything they have to turn it into points if they want to win the game. Six points for the offense out of four turnovers is a recipe for losing. You just can't let a team hang around, especially at a place like Foxboro against a sure-fire first ballet hall of fame QB who has about as much playoff experience - and success - as a player could possibly have.

I don't agree that limited points off turnovers was a bad thing. The strategy seemed correct to me. I generally don't like game management. But against a really good defense with an outstanding pass rush that also has a blah offense? Yeah, I'm game managing the hell out of that game.

In this case, the strategy was to to limit turnovers and sacks. Not to make big plays. I agree this better not be the approach against new England because we'll get swallowed alive.

RunKC · 01-12-2016, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, especially on the road, facing a terrible Texans defense.

Best 3rd down D, best defensive player in the game, best statistical pass rush duo, speed everywhere.

And people bitch that we couldn't score. They are the best defense we could play unless we play Carolina in the SB.

And yes they are a better D than Denver.

**sd4chiefs** · 01-12-2016, 02:01 PM

This guy gets it. Chiefs are ranked 3rd behind the Panthers and Cardinals.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...d-card-weekend

Hard to not be impressed with the manner in which the Chiefs are playing football right now. It feels like they could beat a team full of Brett Favres. Jeremy Maclin's high-ankle sprain is a major concern, but how can you not move this team up after that resounding 30-zip road victory? As Bill Belichick said Sunday, per the Kansas City Star, there really is no blueprint for beating the team on an 11-game win streak: "The fact they haven't lost in so long, it's not like you can go to a game and say, 'Here's how this team has defeated them.' ... That just doesn't exist."

Hammock Parties · 01-12-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

It was, however, half a game by the offense, yet again, a troubling trend going back over a month.

This is how I feel. We will need to reach another level against the Pats. A level we haven't seen this team reach since the Bills game, and Tom Brady is no Tyrod Taylor, and Foxboro ain't Arrowhead.

I think the dream ends unless our offense magically wakes up. And they will have to do it without turnovers, which isn't their forte.

ToxSocks · 01-12-2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mals

This is how I feel. We will need to reach another level against the Pats.

No they don't. They need to be exactly who they've been for the last 11 weeks. The national media and even some fans haven't fully embraced Chiefs football. They believe that gaudy passing numbers are required to win in the NFL. The Chiefs are bucking the trend, much like championship teams in the past that won with defensive football.

Now, if the defense doesn't show up and the offense starts turning the ball over, then yes, they'll need to be something they haven't been all season.

Hammock Parties · 01-12-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

No they don't. They need to be exactly who they've been for the last 11 weeks.

I just don't think that will get it done this time. The offense basically took an entire half off against the Texans. We do that this week we'll be down at least a touchdown, if not more, since Maclin is hobbled.

When was the last time we faced an offense this good? Cincy? We have something to prove for the first time in awhile. This will be the best team we've seen all year.

DJ's left nut · 01-12-2016, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

No they don't. They need to be exactly who they've been for the last 11 weeks. The national media and even some fans haven't fully embraced Chiefs football. They believe that gaudy passing numbers are required to win in the NFL. The Chiefs are bucking the trend, much like championship teams in the past that won with defensive football.

Now, if the defense doesn't show up and the offense starts turning the ball over, then yes, they'll need to be something they haven't been all season.

You're not going to force turnovers against Tom Brady if he can play it super-conservative.

The Chiefs are winning ugly because the defense is making plays and setting its offense up to succeed. But if the offense can't take advantage of that, BB and Brady will simply dink and dunk us to death; it'll be death by 1,000 papercuts.

The offense needs to do its part a little more. This is a perfectly complementary football team but it means that the offense does need to do its part in forcing the opposing offense into taking some risks. The only way to do that is to score. If they hang the D out to dry like they did against Cincinnati or GB, it'll be a long day.

ToxSocks · 01-12-2016, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mals

I just don't think that will get it done this time. The offense basically took an entire half off against the Texans. We do that this week we'll be down at least a touchdown, if not more, since Maclin is hobbled.

When was the last time we faced an offense this good? Cincy? We have something to prove for the first time in awhile. This will be the best team we've seen all year.

You're overestimating their offense and underestimating our defense. Just look at the matchups. They don't favor the Patriots. That woeful Pats O-line and Tom's dookie ankle severely limits what they can do. And we have the players & scheme to nuetralize Gronk. We can get a pass rush on them w/o blitzing. If either of those midget WR's line up on the outside, our boys will snuff 'em out. I doubt Amendola, a walking medical bill, even finishes this game. That guy gets dinged up while taking a shit.

I'd imagine they're going to run some hurry up offense if they see a defensive package they think they can exploit, and mostly work the slot/seams. They'll probably try to spread the Chiefs out and run on them as well. But even doing all that, they're going to have a hard time moving the ball.

If the Chiefs can cover their midget receivers for 3 seconds per play, the Pats are in trouble.

ToxSocks · 01-12-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You're not going to force turnovers against Tom Brady if he can play it super-conservative.

The Chiefs are winning ugly because the defense is making plays and setting its offense up to succeed. But if the offense can't take advantage of that, BB and Brady will simply dink and dunk us to death; it'll be death by 1,000 papercuts.

The offense needs to do its part a little more. This is a perfectly complementary football team but it means that the offense does need to do its part in forcing the opposing offense into taking some risks. The only way to do that is to score. If they hang the D out to dry like they did against Cincinnati or GB, it'll be a long day.

Like i said, they need to keep being who they've been, a 20-40 yard offense with the occasional big play. Im not worried about the Pats dinking and dunking. Go ahead, i hope they do. I HOPE they allow the Chiefs to watch the plays develop in front of them. This is a sound open field tackling team. Unless the Chiefs all of a sudden forget how to tackle, this will be a hard day for Brady.

DJ's left nut · 01-12-2016, 02:34 PM

Beating the Patriots has been easier on paper than it is on the field for many years.

They simply get it done.

They haven't appeared to be a juggernaut since Randy Moss's prime years over there, yet they keep winning divisions and winning playoff games. Unlike some teams that appear great on paper and then shrink on the field, these guys simply play better than their talent says they should.

I think we have the more talented football team. I think we have a comparable coach. I still think these guys are going to be one hell of a tough out and if we don't play better offensively than we did last Saturday, we won't get it done.

**BossChief** · 01-12-2016, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Best 3rd down D, best defensive player in the game, best statistical pass rush duo, speed everywhere.

And people bitch that we couldn't score. They are the best defense we could play unless we play Carolina in the SB.

And yes they are a better D than Denver.

They aren't even in the same league as Denvers defense imo.

12-18-2015, 03:31 PM
Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan I am Number Six Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Columbia, MD, USA Casino cash: $1330000	Walter Football is at it again Poor Walter - still doesn't like the Chiefs. Even when he says the Ravens have no chance, he still has to point out all the flaws in our "overrated" team. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kansas City Chiefs (8-5) at Baltimore Ravens (4-9) Line: Chiefs by 7.5. Total: 41.5. Las Vegas Hilton Advance Point Spread: Chiefs -5. Walt's Calculated Line: Chiefs -6. Sunday, Dec 20, 1:00 ET Comment on this game The Game. Edge: Chiefs. BALTIMORE OFFENSE: The Ravens made some news Monday by signing Ryan Mallett, who agreed to a contract that allows for 14 missed practices because of broken alarms. It was quite the deal for Mallett, who won't have to worry about being late very often. In all seriousness, the Mallett addition was first seen as a sign that Matt Schaub wouldn't be available for this contest, but Baltimore simply wanted Mallett to groom him as a backup of the future. It'll be either Schaub or Jimmy Clausen in this matchup, which means pick-sixes or checkdowns. It won't matter very much against a ferocious Kansas City defense that has clamped down on bad offenses quite often recently. Tamba Hali and the emerging Dee Ford are going to completely disrupt Baltimore's offensive rhythm. The Ravens' only hope is to get the ball early and often to Buck Allen. Wait, I just realized how dumb that sounded. Scratch that, Baltimore has no hope. The Chiefs are tied for eighth versus the run in terms of YPC, and over the past month, they've surrendered just 3.13 YPC. KANSAS CITY OFFENSE:The Ravens have a well-documented liability on this side of the ball. Their secondary has been in shambles all year, and a lacking pass rush doesn't help matters. However, this might not be the worst matchup for them because Alex Smith doesn't have a habit of connecting on deep passes downfield. In fact, Smith was intercepted on a long try to Jeremy Maclin against the Chargers, as his pass was predictably underthrown. Smith will have some success dinking and dunking, and he'll also pick up some first downs with his legs. However, there is some concern in this regard, as Baltimore defends tight ends extremely well. Smith may not be able to connect with Travis Kelce all that much, which could force some punts. The Chiefs, of course, will attempt to establish the run. They may not have Spencer Ware, but that's fine because Charcandrick West can handle the workload on his own. Having said that, West may not have the success that most anticipate. Remember when I said the Chiefs were tied for eighth against the rush? The team they're tied with is Baltimore. RECAP: The Ravens are another team that will be looking to get back to basics following an embarrassing loss. It's a fair point to wonder if they can actually do that, given the number of injuries they've sustained, but there's no question that they'll be battling a team far worse than Seattle this week. That'll give Baltimore a chance to hang around, and it's worth noting that before the Seattle contest, the Ravens hadn't lost by more than eight points to anyone all year. As for the Chiefs, they're a very overrated team right now. They could've easily lost their previous two games, and I don't think they'll be completely focused here. Thus, I'm picking Baltimore, but I can't say I have much confidence in the selection; I don't really feel like wagering any money on either Clausen or Schaub unless it's against another bad team (like the Dolphins back in Week 13.) WEDNESDAY THOUGHTS: This spread is falling a bit to -7 -115 or -120, indicating that there's sharp money on Baltimore. It's too early to say for sure, but there's no way the pros will be on Kansas City. This line is too large. The Psychology. Edge: Ravens. I don't think the Ravens will have Kansas City's full attention. They'll be looking to get things right following a blowout loss. The Vegas. Edge: Ravens. Everyone is betting the Chiefs, of course. • Percentage of money on Kansas City: 82% (5,000 bets) The Trends. Edge: Ravens. • John Harbaugh is 9-3 ATS following a loss of 10+. • Opening Line: Chiefs -7.5. • Opening Total: 43. • Weather: . Week 15 NFL Pick: Chiefs 16, Ravens 10 Ravens +7.5 (0 Units) Under 41.5 (0 Units) Read more at http://walterfootball.com/nflpicks20...0xVf2yuypWl.99 Last edited by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan; 12-18-2015 at 03:56 PM..
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01-12-2016, 01:45 PM	#91
ARROW2 MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $9514329	I didn't see anybody else shutting out the Texans at home and making Hoyer look like that. First playoff shoutout in 10 years and it gets glossed over by the same hacks who were sucking Watt off all week.
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01-12-2016, 02:01 PM	#97
sd4chiefs error 404 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bizarro World Casino cash: $8800445	This guy gets it. Chiefs are ranked 3rd behind the Panthers and Cardinals. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...d-card-weekend Hard to not be impressed with the manner in which the Chiefs are playing football right now. It feels like they could beat a team full of Brett Favres. Jeremy Maclin's high-ankle sprain is a major concern, but how can you not move this team up after that resounding 30-zip road victory? As Bill Belichick said Sunday, per the Kansas City Star, there really is no blueprint for beating the team on an 11-game win streak: "The fact they haven't lost in so long, it's not like you can go to a game and say, 'Here's how this team has defeated them.' ... That just doesn't exist." __________________ “It's Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.” – Mark Twain.
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01-12-2016, 02:34 PM	#104
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2509099	Beating the Patriots has been easier on paper than it is on the field for many years. They simply get it done. They haven't appeared to be a juggernaut since Randy Moss's prime years over there, yet they keep winning divisions and winning playoff games. Unlike some teams that appear great on paper and then shrink on the field, these guys simply play better than their talent says they should. I think we have the more talented football team. I think we have a comparable coach. I still think these guys are going to be one hell of a tough out and if we don't play better offensively than we did last Saturday, we won't get it done. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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