Football Could this end up being a more disappointing offseason than 2009? - Page 7

keg in kc · 03-12-2013, 03:48 PM

I'm thinking purely personnel moves. The coaching staff has a better pedigree, even if Reid is basically the last guy I wanted here. But player-wise? What are we looking at here?

Now this is not really a "draft Geno/Barkely/whoever" thing, it's more of a "how ****ed are we as fans of this franchise?" commentary. About the circumstances we, as fans, find ourselves in. I mean, think about it: we get the number one pick and for whatever reason, whether it's the prospects at the position or the front office philosophy, we aren't taking a QB. We get a complete turnover of the front office and coaching staff that basically everyone wanted, and Matt Cassel will be shown the door, to everyone's joy....yet our new quarterback is Alex frikkin Smith. With Chase Daniel serving as his boy wonder.

Does it get worse than this? Seriously. You couldn't script this stuff. This is like the Bad News Bears and the Indians from Major League had a baby who decided to play football. "Change" comes every 5 years or so, but nothing ever seems to get any better.

The football gods continue laughing.

keg in kc · 03-12-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Ah, good. After a few days of respite, we're back to unbridled doom and gloom.

Nah. I've been pretty consistent. I was the one bombing all the "we're still drafting Geno!" threads with "WTF are you smoking".

Demonpenz · 03-12-2013, 04:38 PM

The chiefs already had the citizen cane of shitty football last year. If Joekel gets beat by a swim move and ends Alex Smiths life, it will be Godfather 2 of shitty football.

burt · 03-12-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

You said the same thing after we traded for Matt Cassel, huh?

What did you say after the Chiefs landed Grbac?

damn you........

**DeezNutz** · 03-12-2013, 04:39 PM

On the bright side, our starting backup is injury prone, so we're almost certain to see what we really have in our backup's backup in regular-season action.

burt · 03-12-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

On the bright side, our starting backup is injury prone, so we're almost certain to see what we really have in our backup's backup in regular-season action.

looking for rope...or an extension cord....

keg in kc · 03-12-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by burt

looking for rope...or an extension cord....

Make sure it's old rope that's failed before. Gotta keep to the theme.

burt · 03-12-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Make sure it's old rope that's failed before. Gotta keep to the theme.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-12-2013, 05:04 PM

Absolutely. This offseason has cemented more than any other what ownership wants: 8-8.

You can't spin any credible narratives about rebuilding the team in a certain fashion. It's a tremendously profitable asset for Clark Hunt if it's a mediocre team. He doesn't care about winning. He wants your money.

This franchise will never win anything as long as the Hunt family owns it, and the Hunt family will never sell it, because it's their most consistent, bankable asset. If they try to corner the gimp suit market and fail, they'll always have the Chiefs to fall back on.

They hoover up the wealth of the ticketholders and taxpayers of the metro area, give you a shit sandwich, and tell you they served you foie gras.

**** 'em.

**notorious** · 03-12-2013, 05:04 PM

Wow, things could get really ugly in 3 years if Reid doesn't work out after trading for a QB again.

The Banner is nothing compared to what might happen.

**DeezNutz** · 03-12-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Wow, things could get really ugly in 3 years if Reid doesn't work out after trading for a QB again.

The Banner is nothing compared to what might happen.

And what might that be? The reason that SOC gained momentum was because Scott ***** was a ****ing one who sucks the penis as a human being. It wasn't just that he made poor football decisions.

The chances of Reid and Dorsey reaching this level of disdain are remote, at best.

**notorious** · 03-12-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And what might that be? The reason that SOC gained momentum was because Scott ***** was a ****ing one who sucks the penis as a human being. It wasn't just that he made poor football decisions.

The chances of Reid and Dorsey reaching this level of disdain are remote, at best.

If they fail by using the same formula that has been rehashed for 30 years, you will see the worst possible reaction:

The fans completely giving up.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-12-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Wow, things could get really ugly in 3 years if Reid doesn't work out after trading for a QB again.

The Banner is nothing compared to what might happen.

You're assuming that CP is representative of the fanbase; it's not.

After we go 7-9-10-6 this year fans will say, "Oh, well we just need another WR," so they'll target that.

After we have the same record the following year, fans will say, "Oh, well we just need a CB/S/DE," and they'll give them that shiny toy.

By the time Reid is 60 and we're gearing up for one last ride with a 35 year old Alex Smith, we'll be looking for a RT, pass rusher, whatever.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

**DeezNutz** · 03-12-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

If they fail by using the same formula that has been rehashed for 30 years, you will see the worst possible reaction:

The fans completely giving up.

Too many sheeple for that to happen. I'm guessing most of the fanbase is behind these moves.

**notorious** · 03-12-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Too many sheeple for that to happen. I'm guessing most of the fanbase is behind these moves.

Good for them. They can have it.

keg in kc · 03-12-2013, 05:15 PM

Yep, it'll be Cassel all over again. If Smith bombs in '13 it'll be because he's with a new team in a new system. Reid maybe has an OC call plays in '14. Then when Smith bombs in '14 it'll be because of the new OC, who'll get replaced. Then when he bombs in '15 it'll be because he's had three different playcallers in 3 years. It'll never be because he's what he is, not in the eyes of the true fans. He'll always need one more shot, maybe one more lineman, one more receiver, one more something. When the one thing we actually need is a QB.

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Could this end up being a more disappointing offseason than 2009? I'm thinking purely personnel moves. The coaching staff has a better pedigree, even if Reid is basically the last guy I wanted here. But player-wise? What are we looking at here? Now this is not really a "draft Geno/Barkely/whoever" thing, it's more of a "how ****ed are we as fans of this franchise?" commentary. About the circumstances we, as fans, find ourselves in. I mean, think about it: we get the number one pick and for whatever reason, whether it's the prospects at the position or the front office philosophy, we aren't taking a QB. We get a complete turnover of the front office and coaching staff that basically everyone wanted, and Matt Cassel will be shown the door, to everyone's joy....yet our new quarterback is Alex frikkin Smith. With Chase Daniel serving as his boy wonder. Does it get worse than this? Seriously. You couldn't script this stuff. This is like the Bad News Bears and the Indians from Major League had a baby who decided to play football. "Change" comes every 5 years or so, but nothing ever seems to get any better. The football gods continue laughing.
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Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $2682136	The chiefs already had the citizen cane of shitty football last year. If Joekel gets beat by a swim move and ends Alex Smiths life, it will be Godfather 2 of shitty football. __________________
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	Absolutely. This offseason has cemented more than any other what ownership wants: 8-8. You can't spin any credible narratives about rebuilding the team in a certain fashion. It's a tremendously profitable asset for Clark Hunt if it's a mediocre team. He doesn't care about winning. He wants your money. This franchise will never win anything as long as the Hunt family owns it, and the Hunt family will never sell it, because it's their most consistent, bankable asset. If they try to corner the gimp suit market and fail, they'll always have the Chiefs to fall back on. They hoover up the wealth of the ticketholders and taxpayers of the metro area, give you a shit sandwich, and tell you they served you foie gras. **** 'em. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Yep, it'll be Cassel all over again. If Smith bombs in '13 it'll be because he's with a new team in a new system. Reid maybe has an OC call plays in '14. Then when Smith bombs in '14 it'll be because of the new OC, who'll get replaced. Then when he bombs in '15 it'll be because he's had three different playcallers in 3 years. It'll never be because he's what he is, not in the eyes of the true fans. He'll always need one more shot, maybe one more lineman, one more receiver, one more something. When the one thing we actually need is a QB.
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