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Old 02-23-2013, 09:52 PM  
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NFL Combine QB workout thread

Coverage starts at 8 AM Sunday on NFL Network. No idea when QBs will actually throw, but GoWalrus has promised to get clips of Geno's workout. No idea if he'll get any of the others.

Here is what we can expect the throwing drills to look like:

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Through the combine, they get a good idea about whether the player name is likely to light up the football scoreboards in the future.

They want to see the quarterback’s 3-step drop, 5-step drop, 7-step drop and within those drops the reps want to see the QB go through the route tree. What’s the route tree? The QB is asked to run a slant, an out, a throw in, a corner route (7 route) and the deep route (the go).

Many quarterbacks worry that as they don’t personally know the receiver and have never played with them, they might throw over or under them giving the reps an inaccurate estimate of their skill. However, the reps do not care whether the receiver catches the pass or not. All they are interested in is seeing the quarterback’s footwork while they are running the 3-step drop, the 5-step drop and the 7-step drop.

In the 3-step drop they want to see how the quarterback handles and positions the ball: under-center. This is because most quarterbacks in college have never been under-center; they’re usually all back in the spread. They see and study the footwork, how the QB plants himself and drives the throw.

In the 5-step drop (intermediate route), the QB has to take 3 big steps and 2 small steps, get the ball and throw it out right away. Therefore, their footwork is essential.
In the 7-step drop (a deeper throw) the footwork, again, is very critical. Bill Walsh said that he could tell by looking at the quarterback’s feet (footwork) whether he had a good or a bad game. The second thing they notice is the carriage i.e. how the quarterback carries the football. Is it up towards the shoulder or is it below towards the center of the chest and stomach. However, ever since Philip Rivers no one can positively judge the quarterback through the position of his carriage.

Finally, they look into the arm strength. This is why the quarterbacks are asked to throw the 7 route and the deep route. The reps watch the quarterbacks drop back 5 to 7 yards and throw the football. They want to see how quickly and accurately it comes out of the quarterback’s hands.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:37 PM   #901
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So can Geno take snaps under center and complete passes, since that is kind of important and his completion percentage doing that was ****ing horrible.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:38 PM   #902
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So can Geno take snaps under center and complete passes, since that is kind of important and his completion percentage doing that was ****ing horrible.
Guess how many snaps Foles took from under center last year in Reids offense in Philly?
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:39 PM   #903
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Guess how many snaps Foles took from under center last year in Reids offense in Philly?
Nick Foles sucks so I don't really give a damn about him.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:40 PM   #904
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Nick Foles sucks so I don't really give a damn about him.
You don't care that Reids offense had him in the shotgun over 75% of the time last year?
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:42 PM   #905
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So without reading all 850 posts is there anywhere where the QB info is posted?
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:42 PM   #906
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Haaa. Has anybody else noticed on NFLN that Eric Bieniemy is working with the runningbacks?
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He's probably going to fall a ways, but if Knile Davis is around in the 4 or 5 round, I'm jumping on that.
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You don't care that Reids offense had him in the shotgun over 75% of the time last year?
They didn't win shit last year. When Reid won big, McNabb was taking snaps under center. You don't win in the NFL being in shotgun all the time.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:46 PM   #909
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So can Geno take snaps under center and complete passes, since that is kind of important and his completion percentage doing that was ****ing horrible.
You know why that is right?
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They didn't win shit last year. When Reid won big, McNabb was taking snaps under center. You don't win in the NFL being in shotgun all the time.
That used to be very true.
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They didn't win shit last year. When Reid won big, McNabb was taking snaps under center. You don't win in the NFL being in shotgun all the time.
This isn't 1985. FFS, the Pats are in the shotgun more than anyone.


Thats just not true at all.
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So without reading all 850 posts is there anywhere where the QB info is posted?
Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2013-nf...-quarterbacks/
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:48 PM   #913
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Do you know anything about the Jags AT ALL? Gene Smith would never draft a QB unless he was forced to. He already did in Blaine Gabbert and he tethered himself to him and lost when Gabbert sucked. He'd draft Jackal and nothing but DIII talent the rest of the way. Don't be dumb.
So your evidence that Smith wouldn't reach for a QB, was an example of him reaching for a QB?

You must have went to the Tyler Bray school of learnings.
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This isn't 1985. FFS, the Pats are in the shotgun more than anyone.


Thats just not true at all.
IIRC, Elway played out of the shotgun quite a bit as well.
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1. We have many needs. Spending 2 of our first 4 picks on WRs is dumb.

2. I still haven't given up on Baldwin. He's played with garbage QBs and reerun coaches.

3. I think people are overrating Bailey. He's a nice player, but if he didn't play for WVU with Geno I don't think people would be clamoring for him. There are guys I like better.
About #2. Do you make the argument that Bowe is a top tier receiver based on the fact that he's performed like a top tier with garbage at QBs? If you do, then you can't male the same argument as to why a fellow receiver sucks. Doesn't work both ways sorry. Baldwin wouldn't even start over Davone Bess in Miami.

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