RIP Peter Tork Monkees Singer Bassist Keyboardist

[srvy]

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The younger folks probably wont give doodley squat but when I was a little kid The Monkees show after school was big. My sister was a big fan and this show was her favorite and she got the TV when it was on. I missed the cartoons more but me and my brother were younger so we watched. I learned to appreciate and enjoy later and Peter Tork was really probably the most talented of the bunch. Mr Tork battled rare form of tongue cancer for ten years finally succumbing to it.

"Hey Hey for the Monkees" RIP Mr Tork!


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[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I was kind of afraid of that. Was it more that times changed, or is it just that we're not 8 years old any more?

I think it's the latter.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I never had the band fantasy, but I thought the Partridge Family was clearly the better show. It had Susan Dey, better plots, Susan Dey, better characters, and Susan Dey.

I swear I watched one episode where the group was trying to solve some problem with a guy, and the show went to a commercial break. When it came back, the scene immediately cut in with Keith Partridge saying something to Danny like, "That would never work. They'd find his body within a day."

You never saw The Brady Bunch say something like that.

There was another throwaway line in that show that stayed with me. They were out in the wilderness for some reason (I think the cool-looking bus had broken down or something), and Reuben Kincaid told them he could start a fire because he'd done it all the time in the army. So they dutifully gathered wood and brush. Reuben then looked at it and said, "Okay, now who's got a flame thrower?"

Again, you never saw that on the Brady Bunch.

The Brady Bunch pretty much only offered Marsha and Carol Brady. That was formidable, but in the end you have to go with The Partridge Family, Susan Dey, and better writing.

I'm with you on all of this. I think David Cassidy's TV girlfriends were generally hotter than Greg Brady's too.

[DeepPurple]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

So like if the bassist from Grand Funk Railroad dies - is it a thread?

Obviously music from '64 to '74 wasn't your repertoire. I was in the 8th grade when JFK was assassinated. The whole country was in a funk, similar to way things were following 9/11. Then about 3 months later in February 1964 a band from Britain appeared on the Sunday Show, Ed Sullivan. This is when there was only 3 channels on TV, so a top rated show reached large audiences back then and Ed Sullivan Show was the biggest thing to come along.

Following that night my favorite radio channel, WFSO the Big 57 in St. Petersburg Florida became the Beatles channel, it was just about that's all they played. At school that's all everyone talked about, the Beatles. A few years went by and each week it seemed another British band was on Ed's show, the Stones came next, Dave Clark 5 was one of m favorites. After awhile, it became known as the British Invasion.

I began to think, why isn't there any good American bands. Then when I was in the 10th I saw a group on Ed Sullivan called The Doors. I immediately bought their first album. Then a year or so later, I heard a song that blew me away, it was Vanilla Fudge "You Keep Me Hanging On", it turned out a few months later they were my first concert as they came and played at the local Armory.

I bought my new car in '69 and the accessory I added was an 8 Track player with rear speakers. The first 8 track I bought was Creedence Clearwater first album. The next record album I bought was Grand Funk Railroad "On Time'. I had a stereo in my room that was a Christmas gift, and I wore that GFR album out. The first 5 albums, to me anyway, were some of the best music I had ever heard. They eventually faded in the 70's like so many bands and I became interested in groups like Deep Purple and Jethro Tull, who I got to see both in 1972.

Grand Funk with the original 3 members, Mark Don & Mel reformed in 1997 and toured for two years. I got to see them in July 1998, fantastic show. Unfortunately Don (the drummer) got Mark (the lead singer and guitarist) to sign some papers he didn't read, he considered Don a friend. He signed away rights to the name Grand Funk Railroad to Don. From then on, Mark Farner had continued playing all over the country as a solo act and cannot use the band's name. Don & bassist Mel use the name Grand Funk Railroad everytime they appear and in place of Mark they've added 3 new members, even though the voice and guitarist of the original hits is not in their band.

If Mel the bassist dies, I'll remember him for what he did in the beginning but not what he did in the 90's taking the rights to the name and closing the door on Mark. They didn't like Mark, because he was a born again Christian who didn't use drugs. Mel, he liked his pot sometimes, and that's the story of Grand Funk Railroad.

That's Mark Farner on the left



The current Grand Funk Railroad, Don & Mel in the middle with Max Carl between them. You may remember him if you're a 38 Special fan. He replaced Don Barnes in the late 80's when he tried going solo. Max Carl sang one hit for that band, "Second Chance", that's why it doesn't sound like Don Barnes. Now he's in Grand Funk replacing a legend, Mark Farner.



The Real Deal - Mark Farner 70 years old still playing a couple of hundred shows a year, if he comes your way, go see him.

[Randallflagg]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I was kind of afraid of that. Was it more that times changed, or is it just that we're not 8 years old any more?

Indeed. I've seen several shows (reruns) over the years that, at the time, seemed like the best thing since sliced white bread - but on reflection just seems "old"....

But I can still piss myself watching Tim Conway on the Carol Burnett show -

But remember - back then we had 3 (count 'em) 3 channels. ABC, NBC, and CBS...

Well, at that one station on the UHF dial that never really came in that well......

[Mennonite]

[suzzer99]

GFR was indeed a little before my time. But I grew up listening to 101 The Fox, so I'm aware of the hits.

I was just making a comment that if we make a thread for every rocker in every band, that would be a lot of threads. But I have been convinced it would be fine and my snarkiness was unwarranted.

[adalah]

Not a Monkees fan but I have a lot of respect...RIP

[Randallflagg]

Originally Posted by DeepPurple

Obviously music from '64 to '74 wasn't your repertoire. I was in the 8th grade when JFK was assassinated. The whole country was in a funk, similar to way things were following 9/11. Then about 3 months later in February 1964 a band from Britain appeared on the Sunday Show, Ed Sullivan. This is when there was only 3 channels on TV, so a top rated show reached large audiences back then and Ed Sullivan Show was the biggest thing to come along.

Following that night my favorite radio channel, WFSO the Big 57 in St. Petersburg Florida became the Beatles channel, it was just about that's all they played. At school that's all everyone talked about, the Beatles. A few years went by and each week it seemed another British band was on Ed's show, the Stones came next, Dave Clark 5 was one of m favorites. After awhile, it became known as the British Invasion.

I began to think, why isn't there any good American bands. Then when I was in the 10th I saw a group on Ed Sullivan called The Doors. I immediately bought their first album. Then a year or so later, I heard a song that blew me away, it was Vanilla Fudge "You Keep Me Hanging On", it turned out a few months later they were my first concert as they came and played at the local Armory.

I bought my new car in '69 and the accessory I added was an 8 Track player with rear speakers. The first 8 track I bought was Creedence Clearwater first album. The next record album I bought was Grand Funk Railroad "On Time'. I had a stereo in my room that was a Christmas gift, and I wore that GFR album out. The first 5 albums, to me anyway, were some of the best music I had ever heard. They eventually faded in the 70's like so many bands and I became interested in groups like Deep Purple and Jethro Tull, who I got to see both in 1972.

Grand Funk with the original 3 members, Mark Don & Mel reformed in 1997 and toured for two years. I got to see them in July 1998, fantastic show. Unfortunately Don (the drummer) got Mark (the lead singer and guitarist) to sign some papers he didn't read, he considered Don a friend. He signed away rights to the name Grand Funk Railroad to Don. From then on, Mark Farner had continued playing all over the country as a solo act and cannot use the band's name. Don & bassist Mel use the name Grand Funk Railroad everytime they appear and in place of Mark they've added 3 new members, even though the voice and guitarist of the original hits is not in their band.

If Mel the bassist dies, I'll remember him for what he did in the beginning but not what he did in the 90's taking the rights to the name and closing the door on Mark. They didn't like Mark, because he was a born again Christian who didn't use drugs. Mel, he liked his pot sometimes, and that's the story of Grand Funk Railroad.

That's Mark Farner on the left



The current Grand Funk Railroad, Don & Mel in the middle with Max Carl between them. You may remember him if you're a 38 Special fan. He replaced Don Barnes in the late 80's when he tried going solo. Max Carl sang one hit for that band, "Second Chance", that's why it doesn't sound like Don Barnes. Now he's in Grand Funk replacing a legend, Mark Farner.



The Real Deal - Mark Farner 70 years old still playing a couple of hundred shows a year, if he comes your way, go see him.

I'm thinking that you and I are Brothers from another Mother........

[DeepPurple]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

GFR was indeed a little before my time. But I grew up listening to 101 The Fox, so I'm aware of the hits.

I was just making a comment that if we make a thread for every rocker in every band, that would be a lot of threads. But I have been convinced it would be fine and my snarkiness was unwarranted.

No problem, having been a GFR fan all these years, I thought the story of Mel and Don and their treatment of Mark should be told. I use to have a mail order and online CD business in the 90's and 2000's. I bought a lot of solo Mark Farner CD's from the guy that ran his website and CD sales. Back then I was mentioning about the show in '98 that I saw and I wasn't wondering why they had broke up again. He told me whole story.

That band has a lot of hard luck. Their original manager producer Terry Knight screwed them on their original contract, like most managers did back then. When they fired him after the fifth album, he actually got a court order and confiscated all their equipment and they couldn't play live for over a year at their peak.

Oddly, Terry Knight might of been a terrible manager, but he was a great producer. The first five albums I consider masterpieces, and he produced them all. After he was fired, they brought in Todd Rundgren to produce. Strange as this may sound, they got their biggest hit and signature song from that album "Were an American Band", however for me, it was my end of buying their records. I considered it too mainstream and a sellout. That's what happens with fans. This is the kind of music of theirs I loved, listed to at least the first minute.

[dilligaf]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Seen this and told my grandkids he'd died. Their response....'so....wth is that?'. So i tell them the basic story, in a band, killer Saturday morning show called The monkeys. I then pull up a youtube of one of the old episoces while hyping how great it was. Uh...yea...no, just....not....funny. 5 mins into it I'm trying to explain why it's funny, then just closed it.
Lost a lot of street cred with the little brats.

A few years back I did this with my son about Caddyshack...yeah, he didnt get it.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm with you on all of this. I think David Cassidy's TV girlfriends were generally hotter than Greg Brady's too.

The only area where I waver is the classic Marsha Brady versus Lori Partridge debate. (And of course, the over 18 versions is the topic here.) Both bring very distinct advantages.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Randallflagg

Indeed. I've seen several shows (reruns) over the years that, at the time, seemed like the best thing since sliced white bread - but on reflection just seems "old"....

But I can still piss myself watching Tim Conway on the Carol Burnett show -

But remember - back then we had 3 (count 'em) 3 channels. ABC, NBC, and CBS...

Well, at that one station on the UHF dial that never really came in that well......

Yep channel 50 I believe back in those days the Bell and Howell had a prefered rabbit ear configuration for each channel. You actually got up and turned the channel then fine tuned dialed it in. Dad put an antenna in the attic one year finally and if the conditions were just right I could pull in St Joe and watch the chiefs at home though it was mostly just snow and hard to distinguish who was who. The next year Dad got me into the Chiefs Huddle Club. So me and my cousin Danny could go to the game set in special bleacher section at Municipal Stadium till he broke down and got a third season ticket. Those were the days.

The Buck Owens Show was on like 1966 my Dad would watch that and me and my brother would roll our eyes and laugh. Later when Country Rock became popular I started taking notice of Buck Owens and the Buckaroos along with Hee Haw was one innovative dude really.


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[threebag]

Originally Posted by dilligaf

A few years back I did this with my son about Caddyshack...yeah, he didnt get it.

Oh shit, I thought about doing this last weekend

[Dinny Bossa Nova]

Originally Posted by DeepPurple

Obviously music from '64 to '74 wasn't your repertoire. I was in the 8th grade when JFK was assassinated. The whole country was in a funk, similar to way things were following 9/11. Then about 3 months later in February 1964 a band from Britain appeared on the Sunday Show, Ed Sullivan. This is when there was only 3 channels on TV, so a top rated show reached large audiences back then and Ed Sullivan Show was the biggest thing to come along.

Following that night my favorite radio channel, WFSO the Big 57 in St. Petersburg Florida became the Beatles channel, it was just about that's all they played. At school that's all everyone talked about, the Beatles. A few years went by and each week it seemed another British band was on Ed's show, the Stones came next, Dave Clark 5 was one of m favorites. After awhile, it became known as the British Invasion.

I began to think, why isn't there any good American bands. Then when I was in the 10th I saw a group on Ed Sullivan called The Doors. I immediately bought their first album. Then a year or so later, I heard a song that blew me away, it was Vanilla Fudge "You Keep Me Hanging On", it turned out a few months later they were my first concert as they came and played at the local Armory.

I bought my new car in '69 and the accessory I added was an 8 Track player with rear speakers. The first 8 track I bought was Creedence Clearwater first album. The next record album I bought was Grand Funk Railroad "On Time'. I had a stereo in my room that was a Christmas gift, and I wore that GFR album out. The first 5 albums, to me anyway, were some of the best music I had ever heard. They eventually faded in the 70's like so many bands and I became interested in groups like Deep Purple and Jethro Tull, who I got to see both in 1972.

Grand Funk with the original 3 members, Mark Don & Mel reformed in 1997 and toured for two years. I got to see them in July 1998, fantastic show. Unfortunately Don (the drummer) got Mark (the lead singer and guitarist) to sign some papers he didn't read, he considered Don a friend. He signed away rights to the name Grand Funk Railroad to Don. From then on, Mark Farner had continued playing all over the country as a solo act and cannot use the band's name. Don & bassist Mel use the name Grand Funk Railroad everytime they appear and in place of Mark they've added 3 new members, even though the voice and guitarist of the original hits is not in their band.

If Mel the bassist dies, I'll remember him for what he did in the beginning but not what he did in the 90's taking the rights to the name and closing the door on Mark. They didn't like Mark, because he was a born again Christian who didn't use drugs. Mel, he liked his pot sometimes, and that's the story of Grand Funk Railroad.

That's Mark Farner on the left



The current Grand Funk Railroad, Don & Mel in the middle with Max Carl between them. You may remember him if you're a 38 Special fan. He replaced Don Barnes in the late 80's when he tried going solo. Max Carl sang one hit for that band, "Second Chance", that's why it doesn't sound like Don Barnes. Now he's in Grand Funk replacing a legend, Mark Farner.



The Real Deal - Mark Farner 70 years old still playing a couple of hundred shows a year, if he comes your way, go see him.

This is an OUTSTANDING post!!!!

Double Mother **** Don Brewer and at least mother **** Schacher for going along.

Dinny