Drive by shooting in Brookside

[Hammock Parties]

Jesus. Now even the nice neighborhoods are getting shot up.

This town needs an enema!

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local...180768716.html

A man in his late 30s was sitting on his front porch in Brookside on Wednesday morning when he was shot to death, Kansas City police said.

Just after 8 a.m. police were summoned to the 200 block of West 66th Terrace, which is just east of Brookside and Wornall roads, on a shooting.

“It appears that our victim was sitting on his front porch of his residence when he was shot. The victim’s spouse heard something and came out and discovered her spouse on the ground,” said police spokeswoman Sgt. Kari Thompson.

Investigators are searching the area but have very limited suspect information. The shooting is not believed to have been random.

Police said they were looking for a white 1997 Chevrolet van with Missouri license 6FA 453. Anyone who sees the van is asked to call 911. Police warned people not to approach the van if they see it.

Police are speaking with the victim’s spouse to determine what happened. A car was heard speeding away immediately after the shooting. Investigators are also trying to determine if the victim had just walked his children to school prior to the shooting.

Police are canvassing the neighborhood.

“We’re hoping to get to the bottom of this and solve this case as we hope to solve every case,” Thompson said. “We need help. We can’t solve this alone.”

The death one of three homicides reported in Kansas City in the past 24 hours.

[Titty Meat]

So the dude got sued for protecting his property? Yeah **** that.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Have a buddy that was working on an HVAC system that morning (on a roof i believe) about a block away and actually heard the shot.

Tough stuff.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Scooter Libby

So the dude got sued for protecting his property? Yeah **** that.

'Merica.

[AMDChief]

Originally Posted by Scooter Libby

So the dude got sued for protecting his property? Yeah **** that.

Not what happened.... at all.

http://molawyersmedia.com/2017/07/28...shooting-case/

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by AMDChief

Not what happened.... at all.

http://molawyersmedia.com/2017/07/28...shooting-case/

The attorneys first instincts were correct, he should have been afraid...

[Red Beans]

Originally Posted by AMDChief

Not what happened.... at all.

http://molawyersmedia.com/2017/07/28...shooting-case/

Gramps appears to enjoy brandishing a firearm or two...

[mikeyis4dcats.]

so cops say Jungerman is NOT currently a suspect after interviewing him

[cooper barrett]

That article is one persons opinion and he doesn't have all the fact, he is just taking others data and making it his own, Here's what I see:

Judges do not like (pro se) cases and are known to allow hearsay evidence into the record when defendants present their own cases. Mr Picket was obviously far above Mr. Jungerman on the complex and very important aspects of civil litigation. Picket was an expert at aspects such as jury selection, expert witnesses, and of course motions requesting that certain otherwise non admissible testimony be brought forward and allowed to be heard by the jury. Picket was of course one of those personal injury lawyers we all are sick of seeing on TV. He had this case given to him by a co-council who didn't want to be bothered with it. For mt Pickers this was like shooting fish in a barrel when it came to being allowed to present the smoking gun than shouldn't have been admissible. It was, excuse the term, like he was in a gun fight with a man with no bullets in his gun. Mr Jungerman's pro se defense was compromised by the judge who allowed evidence to be heard that shouldn't have been allowed. If Jungerman had hired adequate council this evidence would never have been admissible.

Yes Pungerman had been arrested, I do not see any convictions and therefor it should not have been allowed in in to a trial, especially after the fact.

I understand Pungerman has a private lake (dammed big pond) that has no trespassing signs posted(on the property) and 4 boys of unknown ages were fishing it. Pungerman approached them brandishing a firearm. Not a good thing. Overkill maybe, maybe not as charges were never filed. There is no other info as the matter as it was not prosecuted. (Mr Jungerman should have had that record removed (expunged) under the law so god forbid some atty. couldn't use it against him years later.) Was pulling a gun on kids a good idea? NO Was it illegal? apparently not but it was used successfully to sway a jury when it shouldn't have been allowed to have it admitted into evidence 27 years later.

Juggerman has a case for an appeal, Strong one too, why he doesn't have an appeal working is a matter that I do not know. It shows in court records that motions were filed regarding an appeal. Once again when you are a pro se defendant the courts do not like it. Actually if truth be known, judges and
court clerks disdain it, giving those who appear pre se a disadvantage.

What allowed the punitive damages and possibly the verdict to go as it did was not only Mr Jungerman defending himself but the judge making a reversal of a subjective ruling allowing evidence which is as follows:

David E. Jungerman has the following charges currently pending against him and a trial is set for the end of the November and yes, Mr Jungerman is defending himself.

1-Harsmt By Any Cmmctn Frghtn/Intmdt/Caus Emtnl Distrs Or Apprehnsn Of Offnsv Phys Cntct Or Reck Frght Persn
English:
Harassment by any communication/intimidation/ frighting/causing emotional distress or apprehension of offensive physical contact or recklessly frightening person
2:Attempted-Burglary - 1st Degree { Felony C)

Jengerman had shot 2 more criminal breaking into his building a month after Harris was shot was enough to sway a jury against him as a vigilantly who shoots first and asks questions later.

This allowed Mr. Harris, to be seen a a victim and not a criminal. A convicted criminal who had served jail time and was/is homeless who had cut the fence to gain access to Jungerman's property and was said to be inside the building when Jungerman responded to an alarm call at his business. NOTE: Jungerman lives 15 minutes away.


IMHO Jungerman had no chance to win this case with only a legal advisor to tell he what procedures were and assist with formalities and filings. That is not a bad thing as defending yourself is expensive and Jungerman is a conservative man. The 3 attorneys and 2 firms who pursued this case were only interested in the "food chain" as Mr Jungerman was quite a wealthy man who's behavior in past of using force was easily exploited to the right jury. I have heard it took a lot of searching for Mr. Harris to track down an attorney who would accept the case. That attorney JOHN CAMPBELL, then sold that case (acting as Co- Counsel) to Pickert, who's partner is Fowler. All these men used to share a communal office in Leawood together.

If you look at expert witnesses that were brought it they certain make you ponder as to why they were called and if Mr Jangerman's lack of expertize harmed his case. Expert witnesses are tricky to deal with even for experienced attorneys. I do have some experience here as expert witnesses are coached to not bring forward damaging evidence and to answer question as the lawyer who is paying them wants.*

Dr. Howard Ellfeldt, (Team Physician, KC Chiefs 1990- 2003) told me about his days as an expert witness as he was just starting private practice the stories caused a serious gut-wrench that has tainted my views regarding these cases. While being coached, the attorneys would tell him what they wanted to get into evidence, then ask him how to word questions so that he would not purger himself but they would get an answer that wouldn't be questionable under cross examination AKA "get the answer they wanted the jury to hear." even though it probably was not totally true.

The hired guns that a homeless man s attorneys presented as "expert witnesses" were hired guns from companies in OHIO, California and Basehor, Kansas,

Gary Rini, Cleveland, Ohio (crime scene forensic science consultant)
Dale Dalenberg, contractor for American Orthopaedic Associates Huntington Beach, CA
with a medical practice in Ottawa, Kansas (orthopedic surgeon)
Cori Ingram, Basehor, Kansas (life care planner) Used by Atty. Pickert on other cases as a witness for the plaintiff

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by AMDChief

Not what happened.... at all.

http://molawyersmedia.com/2017/07/28...shooting-case/

Pretty close. You are probably a worthless scumbag lawyer too.

[Hammock Parties]

TLDR

Yep, this guy got ****ed.

No tears shed for that dirtbag lawyer.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

so cops say Jungerman is NOT currently a suspect after interviewing him

wat

well this guy sounds like so many i hear on chiefsplanet that are like "you come on my porpertayy and i shoot u thats right dag nab it." people just out there getting a boner about the possibility of shooting someone someday for meandering on their property, stealing their yard gnome

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

TLDR

Yep, this guy got ****ed.

No tears shed for that dirtbag lawyer.

Really? Got murdered for doing his job?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Really? Got murdered for doing his job?

His "job" was a blight on society.

[Hammock Parties]

Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying this guy deserved to get murdered.

But karma is real.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

His "job" was a blight on society.

yikes

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying this guy deserved to get murdered.

But karma is real.

I used to believe that, but seeing so many evil, scum mother****ers who wandered into success or good fortune makes me totally not believe in karma. I know people that owe others 100K+. Win poker tournament or something. Don't pay anyone back. There is no karma, unfortunately.