Linkin Park singer Chester Bennington has committed suicide

[In58men]

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

My favorite band growing up, love Linkin' Park

[Demonpenz]

depression is like having the the thr flu and running over your own dog all day everyday. Everyone says there is an answer but you run out of answers and money eventually.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

The piece was well written, actually. And yes, i understand what you're saying completely.

I should notate the article put shit into perspective for ME.

The pain that my son and wife would endure if i killed myself simply isn't worth ANY amount of pain that i may be going through. For me at least, that's the bottom line. I'd rather suffer a thousand times over than to put my child through that sort of pain.

Until your depression convinces you their lives are better off without you, especially if you're mixing in drugs.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Want the honest truth about suicide and your loved ones?

People always ask, "how could they do that to their families?"

Do their families and loved ones grieve? Of course.
Do they struggle for a while to pick up the pieces? Of course.
Do they for the most part continue on with their lives in face of your death? Absolutely.

We've all lost loved ones to accidents, car crashes, cancer and even suicide. And what do people associated with these people, even their young children, do with their lives? They continue on. That's the reality.

Exactly... People who know him best probably understand and know he was thinking about it anyway. Just listen to his music almost every song is about fighting his demons and how one day he probably won't make it.

Prison Bitch is a judging a**hole who thinks that depression can be taken away by taking some magic pill. What a joke.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

There you have it: the "Lewdog speaks from personal experience" argument. A true debate ender. Settles it for me, really - Lewdog knew some people somewhere sometime that (in his mind) overcame tragedy.


I'm good now.

My father worked with the mentally ill (yes this includes clinical depression since you clearly don't understand that) for 35 years. Depression, schizophrenia and every form of mental illness you can image. State hospitals, determining if people could be rehabilitated in the community or were too much of a danger to themselves or others. Including people who were off their medications and killed people.

So thanks, this isn't just from personal experience. I've done plenty of reading on the subject and first hand experience helps.

[mr. tegu]

Many people with suicidal tendencies feel that their families and loved ones will be better off without them due to their own deep seeded feelings of worthlessness.

Also, those who are bipolar can be very dangerous to themselves during the manic episodes. In those moments if suicide is something they think about they can end up hurting themselves just due to the impulsivity.

[scho63]

This thread is so depressing I'm thinking of ki..........................

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by scho63

This thread is so depressing I'm thinking of ki..........................

Bucket list first, then............

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Continue on with gaping holes in their heart that will never heal.

It causes carnage in the survivors' lives and minds forever unlike anything else.

This.

To quote Marilyn Manson, the heart never heals or forgives. It just forgets.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You're over-valuing the long term consequences of suicide. Short term, yes I agree.


Want the honest truth about suicide and your loved ones?

People always ask, "how could they do that to their families?"

Do their families and loved ones grieve? Of course.
Do they struggle for a while to pick up the pieces? Of course.
Do they for the most part continue on with their lives in face of your death? Absolutely.

We've all lost loved ones to accidents, car crashes, cancer and even suicide. And what do people associated with these people, even their young children, do with their lives? They continue on. That's the reality. We've all done it to some degree. And the children I knew growing up who lost parents to suicide went on to be great parents themselves.

I don't think you get it.

Dying in an accident is different than killing yourself.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by lewdog

My father worked with the mentally ill (yes this includes clinical depression since you clearly don't understand that) for 35 years. Depression, schizophrenia and every form of mental illness you can image. State hospitals, determining if people could be rehabilitated in the community or were too much of a danger to themselves or others. Including people who were off their medications and killed people.

So thanks, this isn't just from personal experience. I've done plenty of reading on the subject and first hand experience helps.

Ok. It's clear now You have zero clue what my point was.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I don't think you get it.

Dying in an accident is different than killing yourself.

Sure it is.

But be honest, would your children continue on with their lives? Or would they themselves just stop living? It can be sad and you can grieve, but most people don't just stop living. That's the honest truth for most people. Doesn't make the act any less sad though.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Ok. It's clear now You have zero clue what my point was.

What was your point?

Making it seem like you've never suffered tragedy. Yea, I got that one.

It's hard to decipher someone who clearly can't convey an empathetic thought towards any discussion.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Many people with suicidal tendencies feel that their families and loved ones will be better off without them due to their own deep seeded feelings of worthlessness.

Sure, i felt that way as a runaway teenager. I know the feeling that you describe. I spent most of my childhood and some of my early adult hood depressed.

I was hospitalized for it when i was 15. I was on Prozac form 15-17.

I've lived with it for so long that i do everything i can do not fall into that self-destructive, woe is me trap. I can now recognize when i'm depressed or falling into a depression and i refuse to let it happen.

Some people can recognize it and have to will to not allow themselves to sink deeper into it.

Some people are far more self destructive. They feel down and so they turn to drugs or booze, which sinks them further. They start playing that sobby music.....making themselves feel worse yet again.

It takes a strong mind to cope with it and adjust. Some people simply never develop the ability to do so. Instead, they wallow in it until it consumes them.

Been there, done that. **** that. Not anymore.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Sure it is.

But be honest, would your children continue on with their lives? Or would they themselves just stop living? It can be sad and you can grieve, but most people don't just stop living. That's the honest truth for most people. Doesn't make the act any less sad though.

And for some they never get over it. They turn to drugs or booze to cope, which only further sends them down the "woe is me" wormhole. It's a compounding effect. The idea that i could expose my child to that mindset it enough reason for me to not let it happen.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

And for some they never get over it. They turn to drugs or booze to cope, which only further sends them down the "woe is me" wormhole. It's a compounding effect. The idea that i could expose my child to that mindset it enough reason for me to not let it happen.

I do believe the opioid epidemic is definitely related to the rise in suicide numbers. Mix in drugs with an already imbalanced brain and you've got serious issues.