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**Nzoner** · 04-10-2016, 06:01 AM

Apparent road rage

Police say Will Smith’s death appears to be a case of road rage
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 10, 2016, 6:24 AM EDT

Former Saints defensive end Will Smith was shot and killed on Saturday night in what police say appears to be a road rage incident.

“It appears that it could possibly have been road rage,” New Orleans Police Officer Juan D. Barnes Sr. said.

Smith was driving and his wife was in the passenger seat when their car was hit by a Hummer, causing Smith’s car to hit a third vehicle.

“The male victim and the driver of the Hummer exchanged words at which time the driver of the Hummer produced a handgun and shot the male victim multiple times and his 34-year-old wife twice in the right leg,” police said in a statement.

The 30-year-old Hummer driver is in police custody.

Smith’s wife was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment for her leg injuries. They have two sons and a daughter.

**Easy 6** · 04-12-2016, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Its starting to look like this was anything but random

Yep, theres apparently a backstory a mile long here

**The Franchise** · 04-12-2016, 05:21 PM

According to police, former Saints DE Will Smith had a loaded handgun in his car at the time of his murder.

Police did not disclose where in the vehicle the gun was located, but confirmed it hadn't been fired. The lawyer for Smith's accused killer has insinuated he was acting in self defense. There is more to the story that should continue to come to light in the coming days.
Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

**Easy 6** · 04-12-2016, 05:35 PM

My initial reaction was, Smith was personal friends with one of the officers accused by this loser of having killed his dad in a high profile case, and Smith had furthermore just had dinner with him... thats motive enough to establish suspicion that this guy just rammed them and created for himself a chance to shoot

Then wha happa?

Smith had smashed into him before the final altercation and what?

This isnt going to end well...

**SAUTO** · 04-12-2016, 07:34 PM

This seems ****ed up. Real ****ed up

**Dylan** · 04-13-2016, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

According to police, former Saints DE Will Smith had a loaded handgun in his car at the time of his murder.

Police did not disclose where in the vehicle the gun was located, but confirmed it hadn't been fired. The lawyer for Smith's accused killer has insinuated he was acting in self defense. There is more to the story that should continue to come to light in the coming days.
Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

Associated Press April 12, 2016

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NEW ORLEANS (AP) — The Latest on the shooting death of Saints' player Will Smith (all times local):

5:10 p.m.

Police say former New Orleans Saints star Will Smith had a loaded gun inside his vehicle on the night he was shot.

In a statement released Tuesday, New Orleans police said they found a 9 mm handgun in Smith's vehicle.

They also said they found a loaded revolver inside the vehicle of the man accused of shooting Smith, Cardell Hayes.

But police said there was no evidence to suggest either of those weapons was fired during the shooting Saturday night. Police say Hayes shot Smith with a different handgun.

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An unknown witness is also heard talking about another gun, though he didn't mention anyone by name.

"I guess this guy was like, 'Get out of here or I have a gun' And he goes, 'F*** y'all, I've got one too.' And he grabs the gun and then he shoots him in the back - dead," the witness said.

http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articl...had-gun-in-car

I'm curious about what the NOPD on the scene originally reported. Was the gun left out of the initial report?

Did Hayes believe his life was in danger?

Sad...

**Lzen** · 04-13-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

In the wake of the murder of his former player, defensive end Will Smith, this weekend, New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton issued a challenge to Black Lives Matter, to stand-up and protest black-on-black violence, the same way they protest white-on-black violence.

Actually, he’s not. That would be helpful. Instead, he’s calling for a gun ban.

In a USA Today Sports article, Payton let fly:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/culture...s-were-hanging

I used to like Payton. Now he can just go to Hell.

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“We could go online and get 10 of them, and have them shipped to our house tomorrow,” he said. “I don’t believe that was the intention when they allowed for the right for citizens to bear arms.”

Uhhhhh........no. No, Sean, you can't just order 10 of them and have them shipped to your house.

kcfanXIII · 04-13-2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I used to like Payton. Now he can just go to Hell.

Uhhhhh........no. No, Sean, you can't just order 10 of them and have them shipped to your house.

and furthermore, how the hell does he know what the founding fathers would have wanted?
It amazes me how many people become experts on this shit when it suits their needs.

**Indian Chief** · 04-13-2016, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I used to like Payton. Now he can just go to Hell.

Thought the same thing.

Cheater5 · 04-13-2016, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I used to like Payton. Now he can just go to Hell.

Uhhhhh........no. No, Sean, you can't just order 10 of them and have them shipped to your house.

But he said it, and navel-staring cucks in the lib media are picking up on it.

How about this Sean; you serve an incredibly hypocritical entertainment industry that generates several billion dollars of revenue from the performances of skilled but generally uneducated/ignorant men to play a game which severely inhibits their life expectancy, yet insulates them from the daily financial strife of 99% of the populace.

He can go have a drink and commiserate with some greyhound racing dog owners that lost a few dozen animals this year. He has more in common with them than he does anyone reading his tripe or listening to his boolshit statement.

Self-righteous fahk.

OctoberFart · 04-13-2016, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

I had a good one the other day: this D-bag tried to gun it in front of me when the lane he was in was ending.

To prevent a situation where either he or I had to hit the brakes to account for two solid masses needing to be in one place, I sped up and got in front of him. That action was quickly followed by several hand gestures and uncalled for behavior. So, in my concern for the gentleman in his fragile state, I decided to abide by the 30 mph limit to the 'T'. The man was obviously in a weakened state of emotion, and who am I to allow him to drive in that state unchecked? I received quite a bit more gestures from him in response to my actions to keep him safe, so I knew, in the end, I did the right thing.

You are the dirt bag and have an ass whooping coming in your future.

**Bwana** · 04-13-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

I used to like Payton. Now he can just go to Hell.

Yeah that's about how I feel about the guy after this, stick to coaching football ****stick.

**The Franchise** · 04-13-2016, 02:58 PM

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...QcH?li=BBnbfcL

Former Saints defensive end Will Smith was shot multiple times in the back after his killer deliberately rammed his Hummer into the NFL veteran's Mercedes SUV, but Smith never pulled out his own handgun as he tried to protect his wife, the Smith family's lawyer said Wednesday.

Throughout the confrontation, Smith's licensed 9 mm handgun remained loaded but unused in a compartment inside his car, attorney Peter Thomson said.

A lawyer for Hummer driver Cardell Hayes, who is jailed on $1 million bond after being arrested by police on a murder charge, said his client felt threatened Saturday night and was not the aggressor. But Thomson called this a lie and a distortion, and said the real victims were Smith and his wife Racquel, who ended up hospitalized with bullet wounds in both legs.

"Suddenly this Hummer drove up at great speed behind them and rammed into them violently, causing their back windshield to shatter, their heads to whip back, and their car to hit the Chevy Impala in front of them," said Thomson, who described the ramming of the car as aggravated battery.

Hayes and his passenger then got out and angrily approached Smith, who asked why they were attacking him, Thomson said.

"The driver, who I understand is the killer in this case, is enraged," Thomson said.

Smith's wife and another female passenger in their car got out to defuse the situation, and walked Smith back to his car, "but the killer follows," he said.

"Suddenly, two shots are fired. She is shot immediately in both legs and she collapses. Either immediately or moments thereafter, the killer unloads six to eight shots into Will's back," Thomson said.

"I can tell you the killer showed no remorse whatsoever, and actually stood over Will Smith's dead body as his wife crawled away," he added.

Thomson said Hayes shot Smith eight times in the back. The coroner's report, released Wednesday, clarified that seven of the bullets hit his back and one in the left side of his chest.

Police confirmed that a 9 mm handgun, loaded but unfired, was found inside Smith's SUV. Police also said that Hayes acknowledged at the scene that he fired his 45-caliber handgun at Smith and his wife; and that police also found a second loaded but unfired gun -- a revolver -- inside Hayes' Hummer.

"During the argument, Hayes produced a 45-caliber handgun and opened fire, striking Smith and his wife. No one else was injured in the gunfire," a police statement said. "An additional charge for Smith's wife's injury is pending further investigation."

Thomson read a brief statement from Racquel Smith, who remains hospitalized, he said, after one bullet fractured her right femur near the knee and another passed through her left thigh, into her left knee.

"She considered him her Superman, and that night, as he always does, (he) was protecting her," Thomson said.

There's no dispute at this point that the deadly confrontation was precipitated by an earlier encounter, which Hayes' lawyer described as a "hit and run." Thomson rebutted that, saying the Hummer had stopped suddenly, causing Smith to brake quickly, but that any contact between them was nothing more than a slight bump.

"The consensus in the car was, `we didn't hit this vehicle, there's no damage, it's late at night,' so out of concern for their safety and because they don't know why this Hummer had stopped so suddenly, and seeing no damage whatsoever, they continued," Thomson said.

"There is nothing, nothing, Will Smith could have ever said" to justify the shooting, Thomson concluded.

The case has riveted a city where Smith was a fan favorite.

Attorney John Fuller has insisted that Hayes, 28, will be vindicated once the full story emerges. He said Hayes had responsibly called 911 and was following the vehicle that hit him to read the license plate number moments before the fatal confrontation.

A public visitation will be held Friday to honor Smith and a private funeral and burial will be held Saturday.

Smith came to New Orleans from Ohio State and quickly became a team leader. After retirement, he chose to stay in his adopted community, showing his commitment to the city as it recovered from Hurricane Katrina and supporting a foundation that helped women and children.

**MahiMike** · 04-13-2016, 03:21 PM

There's a romantic triangle, baby daddy issues going on here.

Athis · 12-11-2016, 10:11 PM

The jury is in deliberations now. The trial was a clown show. There was a lot lies and false accusations. There should be some news on the verdict tonight.

NWTF · 12-11-2016, 11:31 PM

Just read Hayes got manslaughter for both Smith and his wife. Could end up being 40 years.

04-10-2016, 06:01 AM
Nzoner a haw haw haw Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MIZZOU Casino cash: $26365802	Former Saints DE Will Smith shot and killed Apparent road rage Police say Will Smith’s death appears to be a case of road rage Posted by Michael David Smith on April 10, 2016, 6:24 AM EDT Former Saints defensive end Will Smith was shot and killed on Saturday night in what police say appears to be a road rage incident. “It appears that it could possibly have been road rage,” New Orleans Police Officer Juan D. Barnes Sr. said. Smith was driving and his wife was in the passenger seat when their car was hit by a Hummer, causing Smith’s car to hit a third vehicle. “The male victim and the driver of the Hummer exchanged words at which time the driver of the Hummer produced a handgun and shot the male victim multiple times and his 34-year-old wife twice in the right leg,” police said in a statement. The 30-year-old Hummer driver is in police custody. Smith’s wife was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment for her leg injuries. They have two sons and a daughter.
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2785047	According to police, former Saints DE Will Smith had a loaded handgun in his car at the time of his murder. Police did not disclose where in the vehicle the gun was located, but confirmed it hadn't been fired. The lawyer for Smith's accused killer has insinuated he was acting in self defense. There is more to the story that should continue to come to light in the coming days. Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2785047	http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...QcH?li=BBnbfcL Former Saints defensive end Will Smith was shot multiple times in the back after his killer deliberately rammed his Hummer into the NFL veteran's Mercedes SUV, but Smith never pulled out his own handgun as he tried to protect his wife, the Smith family's lawyer said Wednesday. Throughout the confrontation, Smith's licensed 9 mm handgun remained loaded but unused in a compartment inside his car, attorney Peter Thomson said. A lawyer for Hummer driver Cardell Hayes, who is jailed on $1 million bond after being arrested by police on a murder charge, said his client felt threatened Saturday night and was not the aggressor. But Thomson called this a lie and a distortion, and said the real victims were Smith and his wife Racquel, who ended up hospitalized with bullet wounds in both legs. "Suddenly this Hummer drove up at great speed behind them and rammed into them violently, causing their back windshield to shatter, their heads to whip back, and their car to hit the Chevy Impala in front of them," said Thomson, who described the ramming of the car as aggravated battery. Hayes and his passenger then got out and angrily approached Smith, who asked why they were attacking him, Thomson said. "The driver, who I understand is the killer in this case, is enraged," Thomson said. Smith's wife and another female passenger in their car got out to defuse the situation, and walked Smith back to his car, "but the killer follows," he said. "Suddenly, two shots are fired. She is shot immediately in both legs and she collapses. Either immediately or moments thereafter, the killer unloads six to eight shots into Will's back," Thomson said. "I can tell you the killer showed no remorse whatsoever, and actually stood over Will Smith's dead body as his wife crawled away," he added. Thomson said Hayes shot Smith eight times in the back. The coroner's report, released Wednesday, clarified that seven of the bullets hit his back and one in the left side of his chest. Police confirmed that a 9 mm handgun, loaded but unfired, was found inside Smith's SUV. Police also said that Hayes acknowledged at the scene that he fired his 45-caliber handgun at Smith and his wife; and that police also found a second loaded but unfired gun -- a revolver -- inside Hayes' Hummer. "During the argument, Hayes produced a 45-caliber handgun and opened fire, striking Smith and his wife. No one else was injured in the gunfire," a police statement said. "An additional charge for Smith's wife's injury is pending further investigation." Thomson read a brief statement from Racquel Smith, who remains hospitalized, he said, after one bullet fractured her right femur near the knee and another passed through her left thigh, into her left knee. "She considered him her Superman, and that night, as he always does, (he) was protecting her," Thomson said. There's no dispute at this point that the deadly confrontation was precipitated by an earlier encounter, which Hayes' lawyer described as a "hit and run." Thomson rebutted that, saying the Hummer had stopped suddenly, causing Smith to brake quickly, but that any contact between them was nothing more than a slight bump. "The consensus in the car was, `we didn't hit this vehicle, there's no damage, it's late at night,' so out of concern for their safety and because they don't know why this Hummer had stopped so suddenly, and seeing no damage whatsoever, they continued," Thomson said. "There is nothing, nothing, Will Smith could have ever said" to justify the shooting, Thomson concluded. The case has riveted a city where Smith was a fan favorite. Attorney John Fuller has insisted that Hayes, 28, will be vindicated once the full story emerges. He said Hayes had responsibly called 911 and was following the vehicle that hit him to read the license plate number moments before the fatal confrontation. A public visitation will be held Friday to honor Smith and a private funeral and burial will be held Saturday. Smith came to New Orleans from Ohio State and quickly became a team leader. After retirement, he chose to stay in his adopted community, showing his commitment to the city as it recovered from Hurricane Katrina and supporting a foundation that helped women and children.
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