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Old 05-19-2015, 02:32 AM  
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KC Chiefs Drafting Alex Smith's replacement "soon" ?
I swear to god this guy is an idiot

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Kansas City Chiefs RUMORS: Reid Likely Drafting Alex Smith's Replacement Soon?


Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith may never be the most physically gifted player on an NFL field, but he's got enough grit, moxie and veteran savvy to produce enough points to keep the Chiefs in the game on pretty much any given Sunday.


While Smith has enjoyed something of a career resurgence under Chiefs head coach Andy Reid, the successes the two men have enjoyed together may actually serve to shorten Smith's tenure in the end.

"Expectations have risen since Smith and Kansas City had a huge turnaround to reach the postseason in 2013, Reid's first season there, and Smith's big contract mandates he'll be around for a few more years," writes Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports. "But watching back-up Chase Daniel scampering around and making big plays in a Week 17 win over San Diego, one that eliminated the Chargers from the playoffs, had my wheels turning at least a bit and I wouldn't be shocked to see this franchise looking at quarterbacks in the higher rounds a year from now."

The 31-year-old Smith is entering the second year of a four-year, $68 million contract extension. His dead cap hit for next season is $40.4 million and $24.9 million in 2016, meaning Smith will remain with the team for at least the next two years.

Beyond that, his cap hits for the final two years of the deal are $16.9 million and $20.6 million, but cutting him would cause the Chiefs to incur dead cap penalties of just $7.2 million in 2017 and $3.6 million in 2018.
In 2014, his second season in Kansas City, Smith threw for 3,265 yards on 303 completions for 18 touchdowns, six interceptions and a 93.4 quarterback rating.

Smith is dependable and smart and if the Chiefs boast a strong enough running game with Jamaal Charles, De'Anthony Thomas and Knile Davis, he can certainly manage Kansas City into the playoffs.

Winning a postseason game seems a questionable proposition though, for a quarterback who struggles to push the ball downfield and managed to go all of 2014 without connecting with a single one of his wide receivers for a touchdown.

With the addition of Jeremy Maclin in free agency and the drafting of Chris Conley - and when considering simple percentages - it's highly unlikely Smith will manage to let another full NFL season pass without tossing a touchdown to a wideout.

Still, Smith is and will always be limited as a signal-caller - even if he brings the Chiefs to the postseason again after just missing out in 2014, if he and Reid are unable to bring fans in Kansas City a playoff victory, consistently strong regular season efforts are going to start seeming hollow and altogether empty.

This isn't to suggest that Smith and the Chiefs can't make their way into the postseason and emerge victorious from a contest or two, but this is a quarterback and offense driven NFL and Smith simply will never be able to contend with the league's elite like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck.

It may not be a first-round pick and it likely won't come next season, but Reid and the Chiefs will be forced to look for another long-term answer at quarterback at some point because Smith, as strong as he's been since joining Kansas City, is not a Super Bowl-winning signal-caller and Daniels, despite the strong showing to end last season, doesn't seem to be the answer either.
So it wont be in the 2016 draft but it will happen soon you guys!!!
Just have some patience....LOL


YAY?
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:17 PM   #76
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This is such a pseudo way of devaluing a fans evaluation. Before it used to be "Oh you watched tape? You mean highlight videos on YouTube?", but now that full games are accessible it's "But you haven't watched actual all 22 footage tape." All 22 footage tape is the best way to watch and obviously much more effective with WR's and DB's (guys that are off screen for most of the plays in regulars footage), but you can evaluate a QB without it.
So why are you here again? Are you convincing us that Aaron Murray should be the starter or whatever?
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:18 PM   #77
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You don't need all 22 footage to evaluate a QB with that much tape.
Holy crap.


A case can be made that without the All-22 tape you can't evaluate a QB AT ALL.
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:20 PM   #78
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Holy crap.


A case can be made that without the All-22 tape you can't evaluate a QB AT ALL.
Thats absolute bullshit. It's obviously the perfect way, but to say you can't evaluate AT ALL without it? GTFOH
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:22 PM   #79
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What a retort...

But I defer to...



So please tell us, you guru of all, what in Gruden's background indicates that he has any knowledge of what it takes to be a QB in the NFL??

ESPN gives him a show and everyone starts falling on their knees worshiping his QB opinion like he's second coming of Bill Walsh. Lest we forget Gruden's opinion of Cassell; during the KC vs. Pats Monday Night Football game when Palko was starting Gruden stated "The jury is still out on Matt Cassell."

Case closed.
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Just going to toss this out there again; what in the past has shown that John Gruden and / or Tony Dungy have any sort insight as to what makes a great NFL QB? Seriously, the opinions of two defensive minded coaches that never developed a QB is the benchmark.

Your words. Not mine. Don't backtrack now.
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:22 PM   #80
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It's pretty tough to evaluate a qb without a play sheet, route concepts etc.

Either way, this thread is funny. Keep it going.
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:22 PM   #81
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So why are you here again? Are you convincing us that Aaron Murray should be the starter or whatever?
Shhhh. I'm anxiously awaiting his review of the tape of Ramik Wilson
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:26 PM   #82
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I wanna learn how to break down film, too...can we have staylor do a thread each week with film breakdown? I'm interested in learning to become a genious.
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I wanna learn how to break down film, too...can we have staylor do a thread each week with film breakdown? I'm interested in learning to become a genious.
I'm not a genius I just don't debate about prospects/shoot other people's opinions down with absolutely no knowledge on the subejct. I'm not here to pound my chest as a master evaluator, but I'm also not going to act as if there isn't a HUGE difference in the people that actually watch these guys and the ones who just come on here to argue about shit they know nothing about amd shoot any optimism down. Since that's all you've done I'm going to assume you're one of those morons also.
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I'm not a genius I just don't debate about prospects/shoot other people's opinions down with absolutely no knowledge on the subejct. I'm not here to pound my chest as a master evaluator, but I'm also not going to act as if there isn't a HUGE difference in the people that actually watch these guys and the ones who just come on here to argue about shit they know nothing about amd shoot any optimism down. Since that's all you've done I'm going to assume you're one of those morons also.
Chiefsplanet is littered with the carcasses of previous posters who tried your gambit. One even tried to convince us that watching game film of Priest Holmes reminded him of Donnell Bennett.

I anxiously await your game film breakdowns...it should prove very educational for a moron like me.
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Chiefsplanet is littered with the carcasses of previous posters who tried your gambit. One even tried to convince us that watching game film of Priest Holmes reminded him of Donnell Bennett.

I anxiously await your game film breakdowns...it should prove very educational for a moron like me.
Go back and look at my history. I don't argue for every prospect like this, but when I do I'm usually right. The last 2 I've gotten in debates about? Kelce and Gaines. Gaines hasn't officially proven me right yet, but he will this year.
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Retort?




Your words. Not mine. Don't backtrack now.
Tell me oh wise one, what QB prospect has Gruden EVER developed? Other than landing vet QB after vet QB Gruden has done jack & squat in developing an NFL QB.
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Go back and look at my history. I don't argue for every prospect like this, but when I do I'm usually right. The last 2 I've gotten in debates about? Kelce and Gaines. Gaines hasn't officially proven me right yet, but he will this year.
I dont have the energy to care about your history...it only takes one. Then you are done.
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I dont have the energy to care about your history...it only takes one. Then you are done.
So NFL evaluators can be wrong time and time again, but a guy working from his couch is wrong once and he's done? You're a ****ing idiot.
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So NFL evaluators can be wrong time and time again, but a guy working from his couch is wrong once and he's done? You're a ****ing idiot.
No, a ****ing idiot would equate watching a game on TV with 'breaking down film'...

But, please do continue...
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No, a ****ing idiot would equate watching a game on TV with 'breaking down film'...

But, please do continue...

No an idiot would think you can't evaluate a guy watching a game on TV. For Crying out loud evaluators go to games live and sit in the ****ig press box to evaluate guys. How is that any different from watching a game on TV?
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