Football Competition Committee to true NFL Fans: Get ****ed - Page 6

Discuss Thrower · 08-18-2014, 01:37 PM

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Illegal contact penalties are way up this preseason, the result of the league office telling officials to monitor defensive backs closely and throw flags with impunity. That will continue in the regular season.

“We’re not going to change how we’re calling the games once the regular-season starts,’’ NFL V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino told The MMQB.

Halfcan · 08-19-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Probably one of the reasons why I like the NBA is that I don't really have a rooting interest in any team. I like watching all the teams so there is no heartbreak. I put most of this on the Chiefs and how the Hunt family runs the team. I have become so apathetic towards them I just don't care half the time.

Then throw in how the NFL has changed, all the damn commercials, all the stoppages of play and it has just become not a fun product to watch.

excellent post. 2 minutes of football, penalty, 3 minutes of commercials, 3 minutes of football, bad call, 10 minutes of reviews and commercials, field goal, 3 minutes of commercials, 1 minute football, penalty, 30 seconds of football, penalty, commercial break, 3 minutes of football, bad call, 10 minute review and commercials. ect.

And you can always tell who will win the game long before it is settled on the field by the way the announcers are reading their script and the way the refs are dog piling on one team and letting the team with the star QB grab all the limelight-as Cam did the last game. 20 straight shots on Cam along with hours of praise.

NFL is only one step above WWE now days. Scripted announcers, bad refs and predetermined event with lots of commercials.

Chiefnj2 · 08-19-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Whenever changes like this take place for a product such as the NFL, money is 99.9% of the reason for it.

$ is the reason, but the lawsuit settlement was a drop in a bucket.

The $ comes from increasing viewership - domestic and foreign. I would argue that what made the NFL successful was that it was more of a "team" sport rather than individual talent like basketball. To appeal to a wider audience the NFL has clearly abandoned that approach and adopted a TMZ/reality tv approach (and FF ). They are going to identify a "star" and force feed him down everybody's throat whether you like him or not. Tebow used up his 15 minutes of fame, so now it is Johnny Football. Tebow was Paris Hilton and Johnny Manziel is Kim Kardashian. Totally unproven, but they are going to have their broadcasters follow his every move and overanalyze every scramble, underthrow, middle finger, etc. I guarantee that NFL coverage outside of the US is the same. Manziel is getting mentioned, but people never heard of Bortles or Bridgewater (two guys who can complete more than 50% of their passes). Winston should go and steal a few more Alaskan crab legs because clearly the NFL loves spectacles.

htismaqe · 08-19-2014, 10:27 AM

I think it's more than just FF.

Fantasy Football is a symptom, rather than a cause.

Our society continues to lift up the individual, especially celebrities.

Football is becoming more and more about star players, not good teams.

These rule changes favor certain, high profile positions. It's not just to protect Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, it's also to create an environment that fosters the development of the NEXT Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.

donkhater · 08-19-2014, 10:32 AM

Fantasy football MAY be at the root of the rules changes, but it is totally misguided. Why? Becasue as it has been pointed out in an earlier post, each league can adjust their scoring as they see fit. They can award 1 pt for every 5, 10, 20 50 yards receiving if they wish and everything else. Nothing is set in stone. So while the league MAY have done this due to FF, there was no reason to...

For my view, why make the game slower and introduce even MORE judgement calls to the game? Was being the best spectator sport in the world not good enough? A little contact down the field is not the end of the world and it certainly isn't career threatening like hits to the helmet or clipping are.

GoChargers · 08-19-2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The $ comes from increasing viewership - domestic and foreign. I would argue that what made the NFL successful was that it was more of a "team" sport rather than individual talent like basketball.

Ironically, basketball has swung back towards team ball due to unselfish stars like Duncan and LeBron. Meanwhile, the NFL obsesses over a small minority of quarterbacks to the detriment of the game as a whole.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-19-2014, 10:34 AM

Lol why is everybody blaming fantasy? It's all about $$$$

Discuss Thrower · 08-19-2014, 10:36 AM

This is what I posted on FB in response to my linking of the article in the OP with "Fantasy football has practically killed the NFL"

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The NFL's objective of $20 billion in revenue can only come by getting a bigger market share than what they currently have. What they currently have are pretty much diehards who have been generational fans of their teams a la most college football fanbases and have been around football their entire lives as players or friends/family of players at some level.

What's left are people who don't really care any particular team because they've moved, aren't close to a franchise already or just didn't grow up watching any level of the sport be it high school, college or professional.

And that's the catch: if you're not a "diehard" football fan that's been exposed to its several decades of history then you're not going to appreciate the intricacies of the game or its history as a rough activity that is 100% a team game that is won or lost on the line of scrimmage. A casual fan just has a broad view of the sport: team who scores the most points wins, and you get more points in touchdowns than through field goals. Scoring is exciting and offenses score the most points. It's also what keeps casual TV viewers tuned in and thus rewards the advertisers who buy commercial time.

Fantasy magnifies this in a two-fold effect: It grabs the interest of casual fans who understand the offensive part of the game because defense is entirely arbitrary in fantasy football (and baseball too, but that's a different topic). Fantasy football is also the gateway for attracting more casual fans because its an easy excuse to compete with your friends, party (for drafts and post-season stuff) and possibly gamble money.

With this in mind, it's totally in the NFL's interests to neuter defensive play in order to cater to casual fans who probably care more about their fantasy team than any one franchise. Doing so provides absolutely no downside because any diehard fans that are alienated by rule changes will likely be replaced by more casual fans as well as rewarding advertisers and TV networks by providing the masses with an "exciting" game that is back and forth scoring like the NBA.

Eleazar · 08-19-2014, 10:40 AM

I miss the running game in the NFL.

When I was growing up watching the Chiefs (essentially, Marty era) the league was not so oriented away from running and defense. Today it's so slanted toward the passing game. They make the entire league center around the QB now.

htismaqe · 08-19-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I miss the running game in the NFL.

When I was growing up watching the Chiefs (essentially, Marty era) the league was not so oriented away from running and defense. Today it's so slanted toward the passing game. They make the entire league center around the QB now.

In the NES game Tecmo Super Bowl, the RBs were king. It was a sign of the times that the easiest way to completely dominate the game was via the running game.

BlackHelicopters · 08-19-2014, 10:50 AM

Alex Smith is on a Drew Brees level.

KCTitus · 08-19-2014, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I miss the running game in the NFL.

When I was growing up watching the Chiefs (essentially, Marty era) the league was not so oriented away from running and defense. Today it's so slanted toward the passing game. They make the entire league center around the QB now.

Yeah, I missed the running game too...from 1992 - 2001, KC went without a 1000 yd rusher.

**Bowser** · 08-19-2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Alex Smith is on a Drew Brees level.

He outdueled him in the playoffs!!!1@

Eleazar · 08-19-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Yeah, I missed the running game too...from 1992 - 2001, KC went without a 1000 yd rusher.

I don't think it's even debatable that rushing was a much bigger part of the game in the 1990s.

**Bearcat** · 08-19-2014, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

With the way things are headed, if this league folds up in 20 years, I can't say I'd miss it. The NBA and NHL are becoming way more fun to watch, especially playoff hockey.

Yeah, I didn't think about watching the first weekend of preseason and changed the channel last week after about 10 minutes. It just doesn't hold my attention like hockey, CFB, or CBB. And CBB was unwatchable at times last season because similar rule changes and crazy enforcement.

The NFL is already 50% commercials, and with games already being pretty predictable, might as well just turn it on for the last 5 minutes/4 touchdowns.

FlaChief58 · 08-19-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Alex Smith is on a Drew Brees level.

And Peyton Manning. PAY THE MAN!

08-19-2014, 10:27 AM	#78
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I think it's more than just FF. Fantasy Football is a symptom, rather than a cause. Our society continues to lift up the individual, especially celebrities. Football is becoming more and more about star players, not good teams. These rule changes favor certain, high profile positions. It's not just to protect Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, it's also to create an environment that fosters the development of the NEXT Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.
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08-19-2014, 10:32 AM	#79
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	Fantasy football MAY be at the root of the rules changes, but it is totally misguided. Why? Becasue as it has been pointed out in an earlier post, each league can adjust their scoring as they see fit. They can award 1 pt for every 5, 10, 20 50 yards receiving if they wish and everything else. Nothing is set in stone. So while the league MAY have done this due to FF, there was no reason to... For my view, why make the game slower and introduce even MORE judgement calls to the game? Was being the best spectator sport in the world not good enough? A little contact down the field is not the end of the world and it certainly isn't career threatening like hits to the helmet or clipping are. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	I miss the running game in the NFL. When I was growing up watching the Chiefs (essentially, Marty era) the league was not so oriented away from running and defense. Today it's so slanted toward the passing game. They make the entire league center around the QB now.
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