Chiefs Ranking the Chiefs’ 2014 training camp battles: No. 1 — backup quarterback - Page 6

Mr_Tomahawk · 07-18-2014, 05:59 PM

As a lead-in to the Chiefs’ training camp in St. Joseph, which begins when rookies and quarterbacks report July 20, The Star will rank the 10 most interesting position battles.

1. Backup quarterback

Quarterback is the most scrutinized position on the field, so there should be little surprise that the three-man race between Chase Daniel, Tyler Bray and Aaron Murray for the No. 2 job behind Alex Smith is the most interesting battle of camp.

All three players bring different strengths to the table, but before we dive into that, allow me to say this about Smith: he does not have the strongest arm in the world, and he isn’t a flashy guy. But he is, far and away, the best quarterback on the roster, and his performance during organized team activities proved it. In general, he made good decisions and was easily the most accurate quarterback of the four on the roster. The offense simply performed at a different level when he was on the field.

However, the others are interesting. Daniel proved he could play in the regular-season finale against San Diego, when he and the rest of the backups almost engineered a win over a playoff team. Though he doesn’t always make it look pretty, Daniel is a smart, heady player whose professionalism was valued by the Chiefs last season, and with this being his fourth season in the league, he is a veteran now.

Although the San Diego game was the only regular-season start he has during his entire career, if Smith goes down with an injury at some point, Reid might prefer it if a player Daniel’s age (27) took the reigns of a team hoping to earn playoff berth, as opposed to youngsters like Bray, 22, or Murray, 23.

Still, the problem for Reid is that the latter two probably have a higher upside than Daniel. Bray went undrafted in 2013 amid maturity concerns, but his physical tools are undeniable. At 6 feet 6, he is tall enough to see over his linemen, and he is blessed with a very strong arm, easily the strongest of all the quarterbacks on the roster. Because of this, he is a bit of a gunslinger — he never hesitated to chuck it deep during OTAs — but he can also make throws that the other quarterbacks cannot make. Reid also says Bray is more mature than he was last season and has a much better command of the offense. His potential is intriguing.

However, Bray still has a ways to go when it comes to pocket awareness, consistency and accuracy, and it was apparent during OTAs that he’s still got plenty to learn. But if he can prove during the preseason that he’s made significant strides since last season, the Chiefs could have a hard time cutting him, and might be forced to pick between keeping four quarterbacks — which is unusual — or making a tough choice between Daniel and Bray.

Murray, a fifth-round choice in this year’s draft, is likely a lock to make the team, even though he seems poised to spend this season learning Reid’s offense, just like Bray did a year ago. Like Daniel, he is 6 feet tall and isn’t the physical prototype of a quarterback like Bray is, but Murray possesses enough arm strength to throw it deep and has been praised for his intelligence and intangibles.

During OTAs, he took nearly all his reps behind Smith, Daniel and Bray, but he showed a willingness to scan the field in search of the open man, which is a sign of poise. He is certainly one to keep an eye on throughout the preseason, provided he continues to make progress in his recovery from the torn ACL he suffered last November. The Chiefs have to like the fact Murray, who wore a kneebrace during OTAs, did not seem terribly hampered by the injury once he reported for OTAs..

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Chiefshrink · 07-20-2014, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Yeah I read that. Whatever.

The Chiefs had the greatest offensive line for three seasons. Playoff wins? 0.

I would say four seasons. Latter half of 02 thru 05. Yes they did BUT Carl/Dick chose not to seriously improve our D during those years and it cost them, the team, and WE FANS a SB. Our offense those years were SB caliber for sure but our D's were below average and getting worse during those years as time went on. Nobody could stop our offense during those years BUT when IT counted most it was our D that lost our playoff games not the offense during those years.

Go ahead and take JC in the first rd and there will be a good chance you will be disappointed for the first half of the season. I hope to heck NOT ! I hope for a quick productive gel and avoidance of injuries for our O-line but reality say's NO.

Based on our very suspect O-line situation for this upcoming season with a much tougher schedule I see JC realistically as a late 3rd or early 4th rd pick for this upcoming Fantasy season IMO. Insane I know but... But most everyone will take JC within the first 5-7 picks of the 1st rd and more likely than not be very disappointed by mid-season.

Like I said I hope NOT but....

Discuss Thrower · 07-20-2014, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

I would say four seasons. Latter half of 02 thru 05. Yes they did BUT Carl/Dick chose not to seriously improve our D during those years and it cost them, the team, and WE FANS a SB. Our offense those years were SB caliber for sure but our D's were below average and getting worse during those years as time went on. Nobody could stop our offense during those years BUT when IT counted most it was our D that lost our playoff games not the offense during those years.

Go ahead and take JC in the first rd and there will be a good chance you will be disappointed for the first half of the season. I hope to heck NOT ! I hope for a quick productive gel and avoidance of injuries for our O-line but reality say's NO.

Based on our very suspect O-line situation for this upcoming season with a much tougher schedule I see JC realistically as a late 3rd or early 4th rd pick for this upcoming Fantasy season IMO. Insane I know but... But most everyone will take JC within the first 5-7 picks of the 1st rd and more likely than not be very disappointed by mid-season.

Like I said I hope NOT but....

This is a topic for Fantasy Planet... But you're insanely wrong about JC's value.

Reerun_KC · 07-20-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

I think SuckOffPoodles missed my point. I'm ragging ReerunKC for a pretty pathetic constant troll job on this board. I know he's a Dung-keys fan but seriously bring something to the table when you reply. Other Dung-key fans on here can actually participate in conversation. All ReerunKC does is type the same thing over and over. No originality, no knowledge. It's like I'm waiting for her to post something that takes an actual train of though to compose but I'm obviously setting the bar too high. My bad!

NOW BRING ON THE SEASON!!!

Only thing I am trolling is your mom.

Coochie liquor · 07-20-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Only thing I am trolling is your mom.

Sweet. Glad to know she's being trolled by a woman with a smaller clit than hers. I'm sure you two will make great lesbians together. Especially since she likes to shove big things in her partners ass. And girl I know how you like BIG things in your ass!! You go sweetheart!! And once again a one sentence response. Thanks for proving my point baby!!

Reerun_KC · 07-20-2014, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Sweet. Glad to know she's being trolled by a woman with a smaller clit than hers. I'm sure you two will make great lesbians together. Especially since she likes to shove big things in her partners ass. And girl I know how you like BIG things in your ass!! You go sweetheart!! And once again a one sentence response. Thanks for proving my point baby!!

Smack fail. Was hoping your rebuttal would be funny. You win, i cant compete with these atrocities!!

Coochie liquor · 07-21-2014, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Smack fail. Was hoping your rebuttal would be funny. You win, i cant compete with these atrocities!!

Pretty obvious when you can barely put one sentence rebuttals together. And wow going with a lame ass mom reference really makes you look intelligent, loser. There's no way in hell you're a pilot. I wouldn't trust you to fly a paper airplane, because you can't even put more than one sentence together in an hours time. Pilots should at least have to show the ability to construct more than one sentence an hour. If you're a pilot (unlikely) and can't come up with any new material EVER, and can seem to come up with more than 10 words a post you must look like this.....

**Baby Lee** · 07-21-2014, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

Pilots should at least have to show the absolute to construct more than one sentence an hour.

Coochie liquor · 07-21-2014, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Thanks! My 5th grade education is overly apparent!

07-18-2014, 05:59 PM
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $1860526	Ranking the Chiefs’ 2014 training camp battles: No. 1 — backup quarterback As a lead-in to the Chiefs’ training camp in St. Joseph, which begins when rookies and quarterbacks report July 20, The Star will rank the 10 most interesting position battles. 1. Backup quarterback Quarterback is the most scrutinized position on the field, so there should be little surprise that the three-man race between Chase Daniel, Tyler Bray and Aaron Murray for the No. 2 job behind Alex Smith is the most interesting battle of camp. All three players bring different strengths to the table, but before we dive into that, allow me to say this about Smith: he does not have the strongest arm in the world, and he isn’t a flashy guy. But he is, far and away, the best quarterback on the roster, and his performance during organized team activities proved it. In general, he made good decisions and was easily the most accurate quarterback of the four on the roster. The offense simply performed at a different level when he was on the field. However, the others are interesting. Daniel proved he could play in the regular-season finale against San Diego, when he and the rest of the backups almost engineered a win over a playoff team. Though he doesn’t always make it look pretty, Daniel is a smart, heady player whose professionalism was valued by the Chiefs last season, and with this being his fourth season in the league, he is a veteran now. Although the San Diego game was the only regular-season start he has during his entire career, if Smith goes down with an injury at some point, Reid might prefer it if a player Daniel’s age (27) took the reigns of a team hoping to earn playoff berth, as opposed to youngsters like Bray, 22, or Murray, 23. Still, the problem for Reid is that the latter two probably have a higher upside than Daniel. Bray went undrafted in 2013 amid maturity concerns, but his physical tools are undeniable. At 6 feet 6, he is tall enough to see over his linemen, and he is blessed with a very strong arm, easily the strongest of all the quarterbacks on the roster. Because of this, he is a bit of a gunslinger — he never hesitated to chuck it deep during OTAs — but he can also make throws that the other quarterbacks cannot make. Reid also says Bray is more mature than he was last season and has a much better command of the offense. His potential is intriguing. However, Bray still has a ways to go when it comes to pocket awareness, consistency and accuracy, and it was apparent during OTAs that he’s still got plenty to learn. But if he can prove during the preseason that he’s made significant strides since last season, the Chiefs could have a hard time cutting him, and might be forced to pick between keeping four quarterbacks — which is unusual — or making a tough choice between Daniel and Bray. Murray, a fifth-round choice in this year’s draft, is likely a lock to make the team, even though he seems poised to spend this season learning Reid’s offense, just like Bray did a year ago. Like Daniel, he is 6 feet tall and isn’t the physical prototype of a quarterback like Bray is, but Murray possesses enough arm strength to throw it deep and has been praised for his intelligence and intangibles. During OTAs, he took nearly all his reps behind Smith, Daniel and Bray, but he showed a willingness to scan the field in search of the open man, which is a sign of poise. He is certainly one to keep an eye on throughout the preseason, provided he continues to make progress in his recovery from the torn ACL he suffered last November. The Chiefs have to like the fact Murray, who wore a kneebrace during OTAs, did not seem terribly hampered by the injury once he reported for OTAs.. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy
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