Chiefs Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick - Page 6

houstonwhodat · 05:02 AM

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

Marcellus · 04-15-2013, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RNR

I have read Oakland is interested in bailing out of the 3rd pick. They report there is little interest in a very weak top side of this draft~

What does that say about Geno Smith?

mcaj22 · 04-15-2013, 03:51 PM

Reggie in Oakland comes from the same tree as Dorsey/Reid so if one is begging to trade down I am not surprised the other is since they are using the same philosophies/evaluation pretty much

Bewbies · 04-15-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

you would think they would be able to package the #1 overall pick and Albert to a team like the Dolphins, Chargers, Cardinals etc

get a future first, swap this years 1 and pick up a 2nd, 3rd, 4th or a player something

take below market value but make it a package, we will drop down in the draft we can then use that stupid BPA philosophy in that range for round 1, grab a starter in the 2nd round, grab two more starters in the 3rd and we have a haul of players that SHOULD be plug and play for 2013 at our holes.

I say should be plug and play because I thought Scott ***** was drafting plug and play players for four years too in rounds 1-3 and instead he was drafting raw developmental projects.

A great way to build your team is to trade your high picks for low ones, and trade your best players for lowest possible value.

mcaj22 · 04-15-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

A great way to build your team is to trade your high picks for low ones, and trade your best players for lowest possible value.

making a lateral move for drafting a LT while having a disgruntled veteran LT on a franchise tag is also not a great way to build your team than the way I mentioned.

**RNR** · 04-15-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

What does that say about Geno Smith?

I have caught some grief over my take on him. I am far from an expert but many agree with me on the fact he is not worthy of a top 5,10 or maybe a top 20 pick~

**RealSNR** · 04-15-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

What does that say about Geno Smith?

What does that say about any QB that drops?

Nothing. He could be Aaron Rodgers or Brady Quinn. The team with the testicles to draft him is going to be making a very smart pick either way. Rolling the dice on a QB is NEVER a bad idea.

**RNR** · 04-15-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

What does that say about any QB that drops?

Nothing. He could be Aaron Rodgers or Brady Quinn. The team with the testicles to draft him is going to be making a very smart pick either way. Rolling the dice on a QB is NEVER a bad idea.

Not with the top overall pick IMO I think it is a huge gamble at the 3 slot. This guy is simply not special IMO If he slides to the 10 slot or lower maybe a team rolls the dice. Anything above that is nothing more than a reach once again IMO~

**RealSNR** · 04-15-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RNR

Not with the top overall pick IMO I think it is a huge gamble at the 3 slot. This guy is simply not special IMO If he slides to the 10 slot or lower maybe a team rolls the dice. Anything above that is nothing more than a reach once again IMO~

Is that really your opinion? I'm unsure if what you're saying is in your opinion. Please make that a little more clear for your readers.

Rasputin · 04-15-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

What does that say about any QB that drops?

Nothing. He could be Aaron Rodgers or Brady Quinn. The team with the testicles to draft him is going to be making a very smart pick either way. Rolling the dice on a QB is NEVER a bad idea.

Warren Moon didn't even get drafted in his day. Yeah there was racist reasoning but still he proved himself. Don't know what you get untill they play just make the best guess and have faith in the pick.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 04:27 PM

Oh he's special, and you will all soon know it, whether a Chief or not.
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OrtonsPiercedTaint · 04-15-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ct

Sirius/XM NFL just now talking about KC taking Geno #1, how Alex Smith would be like WTF?

But more realistic saying Andy Reid will take a prospect, mentioning Dysert.
Alex Smith needs confidence, blah blah, if you take high QB his confidence will be shot, blah blah blah
Need to keep up the idea we might just to keep #2 and #3 on their toes
Again they say they'll be very shocked if it's not LT Joeckel

Also that guys in Jax DID NOT draft Gabbert, so no shock if they take Geno, but guys in KC DID TRADE for Alex Smith, so not likely they ALSO draft Geno.

commercial break...

If Alex Smith couldn't handle the pressure of Geno Smith as his back up. Trading for him was a huge ****ing mistake on that point alone. That's some Cassel shit right there.

Ebolapox · 04-15-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I see your

and raise you a

What are you talking about? How is it taking a dump on your new city to say several teams were pursuing him?

ah, I misinterpreted you. Mea culpa. I thought you were referring to the fact that he went to greater than necessary lengths to praise kansas city and to say that he chose KC over several other NFL cities. what he said, to me, feels exactly what every new player says when they come to a city REGARDLESS of whether they chose said city or not. felt like a canned response to me, though I've been accused of cynicism from time to time.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

If Alex Smith couldn't handle the pressure of Geno Smith as his back up. Trading for him was a huge ****ing mistake on that point alone. That's some Cassel shit right there.

This. We must coddle Alice at ALL costs! That strategy is a proven winner! Just like trading for backups...
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 04-15-2013, 04:38 PM

If Im the chiefs, I go ahead and get bent over. Ill even supply the lube. Just get out of the first and take whatever shitty pick(s) you can get.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was A Gigantic Dick

If Im the chiefs, I go ahead and get bent over. Ill even supply the lube. Just get out of the first and take whatever shitty pick(s) you can get.

Nope. We're stuck. Say hello to Geno.
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04-15-2013, 12:03 PM
houstonwhodat Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Parallel Universe Casino cash: $10004900	Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft. April 15th: "The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick." "It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February." "No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of." http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down Last edited by houstonwhodat; 04-16-2013 at 05:02 AM..
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	Reggie in Oakland comes from the same tree as Dorsey/Reid so if one is begging to trade down I am not surprised the other is since they are using the same philosophies/evaluation pretty much
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	If Im the chiefs, I go ahead and get bent over. Ill even supply the lube. Just get out of the first and take whatever shitty pick(s) you can get.
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