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Old 01-08-2017, 09:03 AM  
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John Dorsey reportedly candidate for Packers GM

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When the Packers face the Giants in Sunday's wild-card game, the focus will be on the field. But the future of the man who built the Packers is one that is being fiercely debated in Green Bay. How long 63-year-old general manager Ted Thompson, with two years left on his contract, continues in his current job is an open question.

Now, an intriguing name has emerged as a potential successor: Chiefs GM John Dorsey.


Dorsey, a former Packers player who cut his teeth in Green Bay under Hall of Fame architect Ron Wolf, has not yet signed a contract extension, sources said. He's in the final year of his deal, potentially opening the door to him leaving what he helped build in Kansas City to work at Lambeau Field.

Sources said Dorsey is incredibly well-regarded by the Packers executive committee, including President and CEO Mark Murphy, from his time as a scout, Director of College Scouting and Director of Football Operations. Timing would have to be perfect, but if Thompson steps away to take a senior scouting role as some involved believe, Dorsey would be in a position to step in this year.

Dorsey and coach Andy Reid have worked hand-in-hand over the past four years to build the Chiefs into a consistent winner, and they are seeded second in the AFC playoffs. The Chiefs intend to give a contract extension to Reid this offseason, a source said. After this year, Reid will be in the final year of his deal.

The list of successors to Thompson is an intriguing one. It includes Director of Football Operations Eliot Wolf, who interviewed this week for the 49ers' open GM job. While he was blocked from interviewing for the Lions' GM job last year, his interview this year means he could be leaving. There is also Russ Ball, the vice president of football administration, who is universally respected in the NFL and by the executive committee. Director of Player Personnel Brian Gutekunst and Senior Personnel Executive Alonzo Highsmith are among the talented members of the Packers' front office.

With Dorsey entering the picture, it adds some intrigue to the future of the Packers' front office.

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Old 01-08-2017, 10:47 AM   #76
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There's risk even if Dorsey stays and in result Ballard leaves.
Now there's risk? What happened to not losing a second's sleep about it?

You're my favorite type of brilliance, what step are we on now? Been through denial, anger, and it appears we've almost reached acceptance. You're almost there buddy. Is amends around the corner?

No parallels to Pioli? Did NE have a proven winner and boss? Did they stick with the proven winner and boss? Did they let the underling leave even though there was "risk"? Did they win a super bowl? Does proven always beat unproven? Do you have anything but name calling left to offer?
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:49 AM   #77
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Ballard himself has declined interviews because he wanted to stay in Kansas City because of the stability it has brought his family. His kids are in high school I believe.

This isn't the Chiefs holding him back, nor do I think it's Dorsey knowing he's going to Green Bay.
i thought it was public knowledge that they had refused to allow teams to talk to Ballard?
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:49 AM   #78
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Scott Pioli was the top GM candidate in the league, too. You don't **** with success.

Back the ****ing Brinks truck up.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:49 AM   #79
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Ballard himself has declined interviews because he wanted to stay in Kansas City because of the stability it has brought his family. His kids are in high school I believe.

This isn't the Chiefs holding him back, nor do I think it's Dorsey knowing he's going to Green Bay.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:51 AM   #80
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Sorry, OT, but he is a proven commodity in his current role, but that still doesn't prove that he can succeed with the role he would be promoted to.
This is true. It would be stupid for the Chiefs to let Dorsey leave because they "think" they have his replacement in place already within the organization. He may be, he may not be.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:51 AM   #81
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Isn't Dorseys wife from here? Seems strange he'd leave his friend Andy and the city his wife is from.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:53 AM   #82
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:54 AM   #83
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Ballard himself has declined interviews because he wanted to stay in Kansas City because of the stability it has brought his family. His kids are in high school I believe.

This isn't the Chiefs holding him back, nor do I think it's Dorsey knowing he's going to Green Bay.
I certainly don't disagree with the bolded, but it's been widely reported that we denied SF the opportunity to speak to Ballard.

Personally, I don't give a shit either way. We're fine with Dorsey, we'll be fine with Ballard.

The most interesting thing to me about all this is that we've gotten this late in the game. Odd that this wasn't wrapped up this time last year, or over the offseason like Andy likely will be. (extended a year in advance)
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Isn't Dorseys wife from here? Seems strange he'd leave his friend Andy and the city his wife is from.
they met on a blind date at Jack Stack BBQ. She graduated from KU. Works for a KC law firm for 15 years but worked remote in Wisconsin.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:55 AM   #85
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You're too negative, they said. Never say anything positive about the organization, they said.

Now I'm an idiot for thinking the organization is in fine shape should this report come to pass.


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Now there's risk? What happened to not losing a second's sleep about it?

You're my favorite type of brilliance, what step are we on now? Been through denial, anger, and it appears we've almost reached acceptance. You're almost there buddy. Is amends around the corner?

No parallels to Pioli? Did NE have a proven winner and boss? Did they stick with the proven winner and boss? Did they let the underling leave even though there was "risk"? Did they win a super bowl? Does proven always beat unproven? Do you have anything but name calling left to offer?
You're grasping for straws, but you're still ****ing stupid in the end.

There's risk regardless of what happens, yeah. Welcome to the ****ing real world.

And no, Ballard and Pioli aren't alike and holy **** why are we even talking about this. One would be an internal promotion and the other was a recommendation from a drunk owner that gave a 3 minute speech between Martini glasses. They've watched Ballard do his job every ****ing day for years now and have a way to accurately chart his performance, without any form of outside speculation.

Ballard, being an internal promotion, likely isn't going to ignore his entire ****ing scouting department and draft Tyson Jackson 3rd overall pick.

Outside of a lower rung guy getting the top job, they aren't ****ing comparable at all.

Sometimes, believe it or not (good luck getting this into your pea sized brain), teams promote internally and get even better. The Browns had a badass personnel department, moved to Baltimore, promoted some guy named Ozzie and drafted 2 Hall of Famers right away.

My point is we don't even ****ing know if the Packers really think Dorsey is the guy they are targeting ("The Packers like Dorsey." Well, I sure ****ing hope so considering they drafted the guy as a player and gave him a job in the FO) and nobody really knows if Ballard would be an upgrade/downgrade. Could be the same old shit rolling forward.

You seem convinced otherwise and are shoving words into my mouth. **** your couch.

If you can't tell the difference of the Chiefs state of the Franchise Today vs. January 2009 than really, you should probably go do something else with your free time.

If Dorsey goes than shit that sucks, but I don't blame him. The Packers ****ing drafted the guy and let him be a Green Bay Packer. When he was done playing they gave him an opportunity to eventually work his way to where he is now. They gave the guy a living. The Packers Franchise is the most prestigious in the NFL. Dorsey probably wouldn't be the only ****er to bolt for that job, if they could.

The Chiefs are in such a better place now and have an actual foundation in place, and a guy with high potential to take that lead role if it were to happen. Sure there's risk, but the risk is so much lower than 8 years ago.
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Old 01-08-2017, 10:59 AM   #88
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He maybe unproven to fans who don't know/understand the role of a Director of Player Personnel, but he's certainly not unproven to those in the building.

Dorsey may end up signing an extension. But you have to admit, there's a ton of smoke here. It seems odd to me that it's gotten this late in the process.
Ballard would be a good GM IMO, but Dorsey is elite. He might be the best in the whole damn league.

Drafting 3 all-pro's in 4 years. Those are some damn big shoes to fill
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"There are unknowns" =/="Not gonna lose a minute of sleep."
Well since you're ****ing psychic, tell us how it will play out. You and COChief.
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