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Old 06-02-2017, 05:36 PM  
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:06 AM   #826
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After 10 years here I'm still amazed at how ****ing stupid some of these "wasted season" and "Dorsey is terrible" people are.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:09 AM   #827
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After 10 years here I'm still amazed at how ****ing stupid some of these "wasted season" and "Dorsey is terrible" people are.
Dorsey is a great GM but after five years we're no closer to a Super Bowl and are entering the rebuilding phase once again with a young QB.

We're doing now what we should have done at the start of his tenure.

But at least they put some asses in the seats.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:28 AM   #828
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I still think we are going to see Mahomes this season. Either the first game after the BYE at the G-men, or the next game at home. 6 or 7 games to get on the job training.

I may be the only one on this bandwagon, but I am fine with that.
I've been privately on the trade alex smith if we have the change bandwagon.

say another injury situation occurs like bridgewater last year. if they come at us with anything like a 2nd or if we're lucky enough they may be desperate enough for a 1st then do it. let bray and mahomes sling it in preseason and let's just get this kids on the job training. it'll be aggravating and frustrating, but i'd be willing to stomach it.

but if nothing of the sort transpires in TC then let's work these guys in on offense (mahomes excluded) and prep for the transition next year.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:44 AM   #829
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Dorsey is a great GM but after five years we're no closer to a Super Bowl and are entering the rebuilding phase once again with a young QB.

We're doing now what we should have done at the start of his tenure.

But at least they put some asses in the seats.
Dorsey had Derek Carr on the draft board but Andy veto'd. Finally he saw the light with Alex.

And seriously dude stop with this rebuilding shit. Dorsey has been building the team up for a young QB for years.

The entire OL is built and showing improvement as seen with Alex's low pressure score last season. 4/5 OL spots are locked down and Morse will probably be extended.

Hill and Kelce are all pro's in the receiving game and the Chiefs just got their future RB to go with a solid one already.

The offense will have experience, talent and chemistry in 2018 which is what helped Dak Prescott succeed in Dallas.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:49 AM   #830
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The offense will have experience, talent and chemistry in 2018 which is what helped Dak Prescott succeed in Dallas.
I agree things are looking up, but I'm not sold just yet.

In particular, earmarking Kareem Hunt as a draft success already is a choice bit of wishful thinking.

And then there's the WR corps. A lot of ifs.

But they are headed in the right direction.
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Old 06-05-2017, 08:07 AM   #831
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After 10 years here I'm still amazed at how ****ing stupid some of these "wasted season" and "Dorsey is terrible" people are.
Other than the fringe element of the fanbase, I don't think anyone is suggesting that "Dorsey is terrible", however there is reason to question his personnel decision making when it comes to the WR position.

Remember the historically awful Chiefs WR depth chart in 2014? The group without a TD reception for the entire season?

Dorsey, in his own words admitted after that season that he made a mistake the previous offseason by not being more aggressive in addressing the WR position.

Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself.
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Old 06-05-2017, 08:48 AM   #832
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Another one.

https://twitter.com/realmnchiefsfan/...77073302810624

Obviously he has to go out there and do it, but I think he has all the makings of a star WR. Those routes are too easy. Never slows down to cut.
He was a shockingly natural route-runner last season. I never expected anything close to that kind of fluidity and innate precision. The guy just knows how to get open. He knows how to use his feet/shoulders to separate as well.

He's a better route runner than Conley and it's not even particularly close.

I think Hill can be a very good WR as well. If he showed up with a strong knowledge of the playbook, that alone may have been enough for the Chiefs to move on from Maclin. If they want to see what he can do in the Z, they can't do it with Maclin on the roster.

It is almost certainly as simple as talent development for their next 'window'. They could've tried to force this one open a bit longer but they made the tough (though likely smart) decision to rip off the band-aid and make the move now. It's going to sting in the short term but there are significant long-term benefits to be had here.
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Hate to see Maclin go,really liked his leadership and ability but it happens and the $ savings make it worth it
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:30 AM   #834
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Next offseason is going to be very busy for Dorsey.

Bennie Logan will likely be targeted for an extension unless he gets injured or flames out.
Now look at all of Dorsey's draft picks that are in their last year. Dee Ford, Mitch Morse, Chris Conley, Steven Nelson and Cairo Santos (UDRFA but still dorsey pick up). Also consider Peters new deal or 5th year option.

2018 is going to be the year that we completely move forward from the old Pioli/Vermeil era.

Bailey-4
Alex-13.4
Hali-5.5
Reid-2.42
Harris-1.8
DJ-5.75
Colquitt-let walk in FA

We currently have $11.5 million, but after rookie deals that will be $7 million of potential rollover.

With those cuts that adds up to $40 million in cap space plus the cap increase, so $50 million to sign these guys.
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:40 AM   #835
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Next offseason is going to be very busy for Dorsey.

Bennie Logan will likely be targeted for an extension unless he gets injured or flames out.
Now look at all of Dorsey's draft picks that are in their last year. Dee Ford, Mitch Morse, Chris Conley, Steven Nelson and Cairo Santos (UDRFA but still dorsey pick up). Also consider Peters new deal or 5th year option.

2018 is going to be the year that we completely move forward from the old Pioli/Vermeil era.

Bailey-4
Alex-13.4
Hali-5.5
Reid-2.42
Harris-1.8
DJ-5.75
Colquitt-let walk in FA

We currently have $11.5 million, but after rookie deals that will be $7 million of potential rollover.

With those cuts that adds up to $40 million in cap space plus the cap increase, so $50 million to sign these guys.
Unless DJ just has a completely awful season there is no way he is going to be released
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Unless DJ just has a completely awful season there is no way he is going to be released
DJ's gone next year.

The guy has a $10.5 million cap hit next year and the Chiefs can save $8 million of it by cutting him.

There's no way they're paying a 35 yr old ILB $8 million more than they have to next season. He gone.
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I agree things are looking up, but I'm not sold just yet.

In particular, earmarking Kareem Hunt as a draft success already is a choice bit of wishful thinking.

And then there's the WR corps. A lot of ifs.

But they are headed in the right direction.
You also didn't want Mahomes and didn't think he was a 1st round QB but you flipped pretty ****ing quickly once he was drafted.
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Next offseason is going to be very busy for Dorsey.

Bennie Logan will likely be targeted for an extension unless he gets injured or flames out.
Now look at all of Dorsey's draft picks that are in their last year. Dee Ford, Mitch Morse, Chris Conley, Steven Nelson and Cairo Santos (UDRFA but still dorsey pick up). Also consider Peters new deal or 5th year option.

2018 is going to be the year that we completely move forward from the old Pioli/Vermeil era.

Bailey-4
Alex-13.4
Hali-5.5
Reid-2.42
Harris-1.8
DJ-5.75
Colquitt-let walk in FA

We currently have $11.5 million, but after rookie deals that will be $7 million of potential rollover.

With those cuts that adds up to $40 million in cap space plus the cap increase, so $50 million to sign these guys.
You've got some numbers wrong.

Bailey- - $6M
Alex - $17M
Hali - $7M
Reid - $3.2M
Harris - $2M
DJ - $8M
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You also didn't want Mahomes and didn't think he was a 1st round QB but you flipped pretty ****ing quickly once he was drafted.
I didn't flip I'm just giving him a chance. I'll be very pleasantly surprised if he works out. But he's another big question mark.
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