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Then they !@#$ing killed the mother and divorced Barney/Robin in 10 minutes to absolutely shove that stupid damn Ted/Robin thing down our throats. There were a lot of reasons why that ending didn't work and because of that, just friggen scrap it. It was a fine concept but over the 7 seasons that followed, you have to be willing to be open to the fact that your original ending just isn't going to work now.
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We just have totally different views on this point of process, then. |
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Overall, it was just dumb on their part. Plus, the show became nearly unwatchable, if not completely unwatchable, around 2011 for me. I only tuned into occasionally and for the extremely disappointing finale. But hey, Seinfeld's one of the greatest sitcoms of all time and it's hard to name a worse finale. Larry David acknowledged as much during a season of Curb in which he did an addendum to it. |
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05-06-2015, 03:47 PM | #831 | |
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I get where you're coming from. I think as a culture we're way too fascinated with destinations over journeys. It's not just film and TV, but literature as well. Why do we give so much weight to the final third or episode or two minutes of something when there has been so much more before it to celebrate? I'm a big fan of beginnings and unfoldings. Rarely has an ending made or ruined a script/book/film/show for me. |
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The other issue with HIMYM is the network structure though. Look, I get money money money! Of course. It makes all the sense in the world. But it plays against the artist process sometimes. Give show creators a finite number of episodes and give it to them early. Let them wrap up on their own terms. Especially with something like a LOST or a HIMYM that has a sprawling, overarching "mythology" or narrative gimmick. |
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There should be a satisfying resolution for the viewer, IMO. That doesn't mean that it should or shouldn't be a topic of debate but that a character's journey has been resolved, as opposed to the vague or "open ended" finale of The Sopranos or Breaking Bad. |
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Mad Men, frankly, is probably suffering, if it's suffering at all, from that same thing. Just to a smaller degree. Had Weiner been allowed to wrap up a season ago or two seasons ago the show would be a no-brainer best of all time show.
But AMC needed that money money. Again, I don't fault them for it, but I think it can hurt a creative product when that happens. |
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I realize that it's often difficult for show runners to balance commerce versus art but in the case of HIMYM, they betrayed themselves and the audience, IMO. |
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Bryan Cranston has acknowledged as much in the past year, which lessens its impact for me. And for the record, I didn't hate it or dislike it. It just gave me the feeling of "Well, this isn't really over", which pretty much defeats the purpose of a series finale. |
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So, I'll defer to him. If he feels that way then there you go. But I don't see it. |
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