NFL Combine QB workout thread

[RealSNR]

Coverage starts at 8 AM Sunday on NFL Network. No idea when QBs will actually throw, but GoWalrus has promised to get clips of Geno's workout. No idea if he'll get any of the others.

Here is what we can expect the throwing drills to look like:

Through the combine, they get a good idea about whether the player name is likely to light up the football scoreboards in the future.

They want to see the quarterback’s 3-step drop, 5-step drop, 7-step drop and within those drops the reps want to see the QB go through the route tree. What’s the route tree? The QB is asked to run a slant, an out, a throw in, a corner route (7 route) and the deep route (the go).

Many quarterbacks worry that as they don’t personally know the receiver and have never played with them, they might throw over or under them giving the reps an inaccurate estimate of their skill. However, the reps do not care whether the receiver catches the pass or not. All they are interested in is seeing the quarterback’s footwork while they are running the 3-step drop, the 5-step drop and the 7-step drop.

In the 3-step drop they want to see how the quarterback handles and positions the ball: under-center. This is because most quarterbacks in college have never been under-center; they’re usually all back in the spread. They see and study the footwork, how the QB plants himself and drives the throw.

In the 5-step drop (intermediate route), the QB has to take 3 big steps and 2 small steps, get the ball and throw it out right away. Therefore, their footwork is essential.
In the 7-step drop (a deeper throw) the footwork, again, is very critical. Bill Walsh said that he could tell by looking at the quarterback’s feet (footwork) whether he had a good or a bad game. The second thing they notice is the carriage i.e. how the quarterback carries the football. Is it up towards the shoulder or is it below towards the center of the chest and stomach. However, ever since Philip Rivers no one can positively judge the quarterback through the position of his carriage.

Finally, they look into the arm strength. This is why the quarterbacks are asked to throw the 7 route and the deep route. The reps watch the quarterbacks drop back 5 to 7 yards and throw the football. They want to see how quickly and accurately it comes out of the quarterback’s hands.

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by milkman

Good god, you dipshit.

Do I have ****ing spell out the fact to your clueless dumb ass that I am only telling you what I saw from the comfort of my home on TV?

Is it that ****ing difficult to understand?

Do I have to draw a picture with crayons for your simple mind?

****ing usless ****ing moron.

Haha. Got the old man all worked up. Don't let your oxygen tube fall out. Yeah, so if you don't know shit, don't say shit.

[melbar]

I'm really excited to see Grudens QB camp. Love seeing them break things down and talk about what makes them tick. Really insightful last year.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Name 21 teams that wouldn't consider Geno?

I can't name you 21 teams that wouldn't, but I can name you 31 teams that shouldn't even have a chance at him.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

Haha. Got the old man all worked up. Don't let your oxygen tube fall out. Yeah, so if you don't know shit, don't say shit.

You are the stupid mother****er that doesn't know shit.

You were not on the sidlines either, so your perspective was the. Same as mine.

So your comment that he showed frustration on the sidelines has no basis in fact.

My comment that the only frustration he displayed was with himself is based on what I saw from where we both sat.

In front of the TV.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I can't name you 21 teams that wouldn't, but I can name you 31 teams that shouldn't even have a chance at him.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Name 21 teams that wouldn't consider Geno?

21 Teams are set at QB. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Coogs

I can't name you 21 teams that wouldn't, but I can name you 31 teams that shouldn't even have a chance at him.

There are about 10 teams that no way would take a QB in the 1st IMO.

Wash
Giants
GB
Detroit
Atlanta
Carolina
San Fran
Seattle
Balt
Colts

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

21 Teams are set at QB. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Green Bay was set at QB when they took Aaron Rodgers. How did that work out for them?

[Canofbier]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

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Found this list of throw velocities at previous years' combines:

YEAR: 2012

Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State 59

Kirk Cousins, Michigan State 59

Austin Davis, Southern Mississippi 58

Nick Foles, Arizona 57

Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois 57

Jordan Jefferson, LSU 57

Russell Wilson, Wisconsin 55

Casey Keenum, Houston 55

Patrick Witt, Yale 54

Darron Thomas, Oregon 53

Ryan Lindley, San Diego State 52

Kellen Moore, Boise State 52

Jacory Harris, Miami 50

Aaron Corp, Richmond 50

BJ Coleman, Tennessee-Chattanooga Did not throw

Robert Griffin III, Baylor Did not throw

Andrew Luck, Stanford Did not throw

Brock Osweiler, Arizona State Did not throw

Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M Did not throw

According to this site, 50 mph is nothing special in and of itself, but given that Kirk Cousins and Brandon Weeden top the list of 2012 QBs that threw, I'm not sure that combine throw velocity is really a valid measurement of arm strength anyway.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Green Bay was set at QB when they took Aaron Rodgers. How did that work out for them?

Not really. Favre was old, and was starting to sputter out his "I'm going to retire" wishwash.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

I don't know what you Geno blow hards are bitching about...

He's NOT a running QB

I am so excited that you don't like Geno.

The CoMo stamp of approval lives on.

We know he's not a running QB. We don't want him to be a running QB. But he's as fast as Cam and within spitting distance of Kaepernick and Wilson. The kid's an outstanding athlete which means a ton in terms of his ability to refine his mechanics.

He's a gym rat with great touch and the mobility to escape pressure and make plays.

He's a !@#$ing ideal QB prospect but he has the misfortune of coming up after Luck and RGIII.

He's the pick.

[O.city]

Guess Pitt wants to deal Big Ben they talked to geno

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Canofbier

Found this list of throw velocities at previous years' combines:



According to this site, 50 mph is nothing special in and of itself, but given that Kirk Cousins and Brandon Weeden top the list of 2012 QBs that threw, I'm not sure that combine throw velocity is really a valid measurement of arm strength anyway.

IDK I don't really get it, nor does it matter. No one can tell me Kellen Moore has a stronger arm than Geno Smith so IDK what to base any of these numbers off of. His arm strength isn't an issue. Just as strong as Luck's IMO.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Guess Pitt wants to deal Big Ben they talked to geno

I have a feeling he is going to fall off a cliff pretty soon with his style. Pittsburgh is a very smart franchise.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by O.city

Guess Pitt wants to deal Big Ben they talked to geno

Ha...


....oh Todd.