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Old 01-18-2015, 11:57 AM  
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****The OFFICIAL Packers vs. Seahawks NFCCG Thread****
Game time is 2:05 Central. Adjust the time zone accordingly, you idiot.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:59 PM   #781
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He's not elite, stfu about it already god damn. He's a good qb. Top 10 in the league.. largely based on his number ONE defense and top 5 running backs in the nfl.
So, Tom Brady wasn't elite for the first 5 years of his career.

Got it.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:59 PM   #782
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Kind of strange that they always mention Earl Thomas as small but he weighs about the same as Berry.
He's a couple inches shorter and weighs about 10 pounds less.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:59 PM   #783
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Why put constraints on a legitimately elite QB even if he has a stacked team around him?

Their offense is far from stacked.

Their receivers are Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse and Ricardo Lockette. Their TE is Luke Willson.

They've got Lynch but they've dealt with shuffling along the offensive line. In many games they've looked horrible as a unit.

The fact that they were even able to average over 20 PPG with that supporting cast is a testament to Wilson's ability.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:59 PM   #784
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sold some stock

but give him a bit of a pass since Harbaugh took away the read option this year, for no reason whatsoever (other than he was mad at management and tanked the season).

I would bet he bounces back next year ... but his coach has to realize he's a READ OPTION QB ... turning him into anything else is ridiculous.

but probably not as great as I thought he was going to be
i'll bet you Kap will be the undisputed better QB than Wilson iwthin the next 5 years
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but give him a bit of a pass since Harbaugh took away the read option this year, for no reason whatsoever (other than he was mad at management and tanked the season).

I would bet he bounces back next year ... but his coach has to realize he's a READ OPTION QB ... turning him into anything else is ridiculous.

but probably not as great as I thought he was going to be
I don't expect progression from Kaepernick until he is able to become a much more polished passer. Until then, he'll be pretty stagnant, regardless of the offensive system.
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I am not sure how you can deny a Super Bowl winning QB a big pay day.
Easily, depending on who the QB is. Would you be comfortable making Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson the highest-paid QB in football?
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i'll bet you Kap will be the undisputed better QB than Wilson iwthin the next 5 years
I'm sure you would.
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So, Tom Brady wasn't elite for the first 5 years of his career.

Got it.
lol you're the king of straw-man and deviating from the subject at hand
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He's a couple inches shorter and weighs about 10 pounds less.

I'm aware that he's shorter but this broadcast just pegged him at 202. I wouldn't guess Berry is anymore than 210.
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lol you're the king of straw-man and deviating from the subject at hand
am I?

or am I the king of applying logic used in one instance to another similar instance and then asking what the difference is?
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