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Old 06-21-2015, 11:57 AM  
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:07 PM   #766
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If Alex Smith threw two red zone interceptions in a game and Jamaal Charles averaged 6.0 YPC to save the day for a comeback win, there would be a dozen "Alex Smith sucks" threads on the front page.
All you did was look at the box score.

Look at the play by play. Russell Wilson had everything to do with that comeback.

Starting with 9:43 left in the third, he racked up 202 yards of offense and 2 touchdowns. He completed 16 of 19 passes during that portion of the game.

Lynch had 14 carries for 73 yards rushing during that same time period, but 27 of those came on the last two plays of the game in overtime.

So who really led that comeback, genious?

Meanwhile a guy like Alex Smith is lucky to get 200 yards in an entire game.

Maybe next time...do a little research.

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Old 06-24-2015, 03:08 PM   #767
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What is the only reason not to lock up a supposed Franchise QB?
There isn't one, which is why they'll get a deal done.
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:09 PM   #768
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he's gone 2-4 since winning the Super Bowl including losing to "the worst QB ever!!1111!" twice (Kaepernick) in the postseason

again

Aaron gets every excuse
That's because Chiefs fans put too much emphasis on regular season statistics.

Because that's all we've had for 23 years.

Meanwhile they scoff at playoff studs like Joe Flacco and Russell Wilson, knowing full well deep in their heart of hearts that if they were Chiefs they would be getting stroked off and being fed grapes constantly.
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:18 PM   #769
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All you did was look at the box score.

Look at the play by play.
Meanwhile a guy like Alex Smith is lucky to get 200 yards in an entire game.
217 yds in a complete game, including overtime. I looked at the play by play and watched the highlights. Wilson played a very average game.
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:22 PM   #770
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he's gone 2-4 since winning the Super Bowl including losing to "the worst QB ever!!1111!" twice (Kaepernick) in the postseason

again

Aaron gets every excuse
I don't remember Aaron Rodgers throwing 4 INT's in a playoff game and not having any consequence.
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There isn't one, which is why they'll get a deal done.
Apparently, you haven't been following all of the reports in which Russell has said he's dealt with the issue of moving on before or that Schneider is unwilling to meet his contract demands because they're unsure if Wilson is a true Franchise QB or a product of a great team around him.

If a deal doesn't get done soon and Wilson plays out the season, only to be Franchised in 2016, there will be a lot of animosity between the player and the front office.

IMO, if you believe he's a Franchise QB, you lock him up now, not a year from now when his price will likely increase due to more salary cap room.
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:26 PM   #772
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That's because Chiefs fans put too much emphasis on regular season statistics.


Yet when Alex Smith throws for 378 yards, 4 TD's and another 50 yards on the ground, while on the road in a playoff game after losing his best offensive weapon, you say he's not good enough.



You can't have it both ways.
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:27 PM   #773
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Apparently, you haven't been following all of the reports in which Russell has said he's dealt with the issue of moving on before or that Schneider is unwilling to meet his contract demands because they're unsure if Wilson is a true Franchise QB or a product of a great team around him.

If a deal doesn't get done soon and Wilson plays out the season, only to be Franchised in 2016, there will be a lot of animosity between the player and the front office.

IMO, if you believe he's a Franchise QB, you lock him up now, not a year from now when his price will likely increase due to more salary cap room.
This says everything you need to know. If he's a franchise QB you don't hear this kinda stuff.
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Apparently, you haven't been following all of the reports in which Russell has said he's dealt with the issue of moving on before or that Schneider is unwilling to meet his contract demands because they're unsure if Wilson is a true Franchise QB or a product of a great team around him.

If a deal doesn't get done soon and Wilson plays out the season, only to be Franchised in 2016, there will be a lot of animosity between the player and the front office.

IMO, if you believe he's a Franchise QB, you lock him up now, not a year from now when his price will likely increase due to more salary cap room.
I follow reports; I just don't pretend to know what's what. All of it sounds like posturing.

Eventually a deal will get done.
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Yet when Alex Smith throws for 378 yards, 4 TD's and another 50 yards on the ground, while on the road in a playoff game after losing his best offensive weapon, you say he's not good enough.



You can't have it both ways.
Yes I can.

And here's why:

The Seahawks won that game for the same reason they won the NFC Championship game, which is Russell Wilson playing out of his ****ing gourd in crunch time with the game on the line. Being an ultra-****ing badass when his team needed him the most.

The Chiefs missed the playoffs last year and lost that playoff game because largely, Alex Smith has sucked in the same situations.
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Yet when Alex Smith throws for 378 yards, 4 TD's and another 50 yards on the ground, while on the road in a playoff game after losing his best offensive weapon, you say he's not good enough.



You can't have it both ways.

"All Alex Smith does is win!"








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217 yds in a complete game, including overtime. I looked at the play by play and watched the highlights. Wilson played a very average game.
He also led the comeback, and you should respect that. Generating over 200 yards of offense and 2 TDs in that short of a time span is leading it, without a question.

You are wrong.
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These negotiations mean jack.

The Seahawks took a hard line with Marshawn Lynch, but when push came to shove, they caved.

I expect the same will happen with Wilson.
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Yet when Alex Smith throws for 378 yards, 4 TD's and another 50 yards on the ground, while on the road in a playoff game after losing his best offensive weapon, you say he's not good enough.



You can't have it both ways.
To be fair both defenses were $#it that day.

Ours mostly due to injury but it was what it was...
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To be fair both defenses were $#it that day.

Ours mostly due to injury but it was what it was...
That's irrelevant to Clay's post. He said that regular season stats don't matter but playoff stats matter.

Yet when talking about Alex Smith, he says that playoff stats don't matter, regular season stats matter.

He can't have it both ways.
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