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Not only that but his blood spilling out onto the snow. Melisandre is always going on about king's blood and what not. Maybe that isn't relevant but.. It stuck out to me. |
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Haha....sure...or it could be Patrick's (from Spongebob) shadow.
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I'm just reading A Clash of Kings now and I read the House of the Undying chapter last night. I noticed the following from the prophecy:
"A corpse stood at the prow of a ship, eyes bright in his dead face, grey lips smiling sadly. A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness." Of course people talk an awful lot about the second sentence referring to Snow, etc. But people have wondered who the "corpse" is in the preceding sentence and suggested a number of candidates. http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/Prophecies/Entry/1813 My question: could it refer to Jon Snow's death, resurrection, and future sailing to . . . somewhere (Hardhome, Meereen, King's Landing?) |
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06-18-2015, 01:52 PM | #773 | |
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06-18-2015, 02:12 PM | #774 |
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my sister (a huge history buff, especially that era of English history) mentioned to me yesterday that she's pretty sure that GRRmartin is using the war of the roses as a scaffold for this, which... wonder how that would end exactly
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06-18-2015, 02:42 PM | #775 |
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Yes, I believe Martin himself has mentioned War of the Roses as being one of his "inspirations". Clearly nearly everything there (other than the supernatural stuff) is drawn on some aspect of world history. The Dothraki are Mongols. Westeros is England. The Wall is Hadrian's Wall writ large. The Red Wedding is the Scottish Black Dinner. The Unsullied are an over the top and testicle-free version of Spartan warriors, etc. ad infinitum.
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Victarion is a dead man walking. He's on his way to die even if he doesn't know it yet. There are also theories that he died already when the guy was healing his arm. The idea is that the POV chapter (in ADWD) when Victarion is being healed is the only time in all of the books that the POV leaves the character for a short time and goes to a different narrator. In other words, it is a Victarion POV chapter, but for a short time you are not seeing from Victarion's POV and instead are told what is happening elsewhere on the ship. This is highly unusual for GRRM and I have found no other examples of it so far. It is mainly because of this that I think the vision applies to Victarion. Long book quote:
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Connington is also a possibility because of his greyscale and that could make him a "corpse" for purposes of Dany's vision, plus the greyscale would match up to the reference to grey sad lips. But I have always felt that Victarion was the best bet for that quote. |
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I take it you weren't convinced by my Victarion argument? |
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Victarion is a possibility. As noted, he's not a corpse. |
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