Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 51

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

**loochy** · 11-28-2016, 08:56 AM

So did anyone get the final PSU numbers for Smith?

Molitoth · 11-28-2016, 08:57 AM

Like I mentioned before, my biggest frustration with Alex Smith is that we know he CAN.... but most of the time he just WON'T.

TEX · 11-28-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Good lord.

He's the quarterback. He deserves the most blame for a loss, and the most credit for a win. Thats how it works. Despite others having much better overall games, Alex Smith gets my game ball for the Denver win. Despite the defense being below average against Tampa, Alex is the biggest goat for that loss.

Well, I'd give the game ball to Hill, but your point about Smith is spot on.

Red Dawg · 11-28-2016, 09:03 AM

My opinion of Alex will not change. I want him gone at the end of the year but I can at least give him props for getting it done on the road and undermanned. He made many throws under pressure and deserves a lot of credit for pulling out the win.

But he's played terrible in far to many games to have him back next season in my mind. We have won 8 games and not many are because he played good football. That is not good enough going forward.

If we win the SB they can hand him a blank check and play him till he's 45 for all I care.

Molitoth · 11-28-2016, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

If we win the SB they can hand him a blank check and play him till he's 45 for all I care.

He will join the ranks of Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson.

threebag · 11-28-2016, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

yep. No molestation in my life, thank Christ. Feel badly for anyone that had/has to go through such a thing.. and it's certainly not something one should mock someone else over. That's like making fun of someone for having cancer.. or for having a relative incarcerated for murder. tsk tsk..

Yeah it's low rent for sure. Especially when the mods have said its not him. Talk about living in some heads.

GO CHIEFS

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-28-2016, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

So did anyone get the final PSU numbers for Smith?

Pretty sure it was 8 and Dustin made good on his end on 5 👍

chiefzilla1501 · 11-28-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Like I mentioned before, my biggest frustration with Alex Smith is that we know he CAN.... but most of the time he just WON'T.

This. x100

You could see him flinch on a few open throws early in the game. It's not like he throws vertical late in 4th quarters. It's still pretty conservative football. If he played every quarter like it was the 4th, he'd actually be a good qb.

PAChiefsGuy · 11-28-2016, 09:32 AM

Some of you guys crack me up.

You'd rather Alex throws for 300+ yds and 3+ TDs and we lose than he has bad stats and we win...

Maybe you guys don't realize the object of the game is to win not get a lot of FF pts.

**The Franchise** · 11-28-2016, 09:37 AM

If only teams would play prevent defense the entire game....then Smith could look decent.

threebag · 11-28-2016, 09:37 AM

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Molitoth · 11-28-2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Some of you guys crack me up.

You'd rather Alex throws for 300+ yds and 3+ TDs and we lose than he has bad stats and we win...

Maybe you guys don't realize the object of the game is to win not get a lot of FF pts.

If Alex is putting up those stats, then he is not the problem. dumbass.

**SAUTO** · 11-28-2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Some of you guys crack me up.

You'd rather Alex throws for 300+ yds and 3+ TDs and we lose than he has bad stats and we win...

Maybe you guys don't realize the object of the game is to win not get a lot of FF pts.

sorry but this is idiotic every time someone posts it.

90% of people bitching about smith wouldnt rather lose a game just to be right. all they want is to win, in the playoffs, a super bowl.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-28-2016, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Some of you guys crack me up.

You'd rather Alex throws for 300+ yds and 3+ TDs and we lose than he has bad stats and we win...

Maybe you guys don't realize the object of the game is to win not get a lot of FF pts.

Less is more and people don't realize it. 2014 Brady and Manning led the league in passes thrown inside the 10 but people put off this perception that they are just chucking the rock.

So long as our team isn't getting buried (again a product of good defensive play)... methodical movement of the football up the field does many things like resting your defense and tiring out your opponents' LB and secondary (as they have to cover far more field than any receiver or tight end).

The idiots on here undervalue the concept of ball protection. An effective run game is going to produce less turnovers than any equal # of pass plays. A ball thrown in the air has so many factors that come into play...I'm tired of people bitching about the WCO and that when productive, we are primarily a run first team. 2015 we were near close to running the ball on half of plays and that's when we were the most efficient as scoring (ranked 6th in the league in points per drive)...

Chiefnj2 · 11-28-2016, 09:45 AM

After 58 minutes of being Cassel-lite, Alex did a good job making some key throws.

Good for him. Hopefully it boosts his confidence down the stretch, because if he plays like he did the first 58 KC will miss out on the post-season.

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4512858	My opinion of Alex will not change. I want him gone at the end of the year but I can at least give him props for getting it done on the road and undermanned. He made many throws under pressure and deserves a lot of credit for pulling out the win. But he's played terrible in far to many games to have him back next season in my mind. We have won 8 games and not many are because he played good football. That is not good enough going forward. If we win the SB they can hand him a blank check and play him till he's 45 for all I care. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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PAChiefsGuy Best Body On ChiefsPlanet Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $2584900	Some of you guys crack me up. You'd rather Alex throws for 300+ yds and 3+ TDs and we lose than he has bad stats and we win... Maybe you guys don't realize the object of the game is to win not get a lot of FF pts.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7813688	After 58 minutes of being Cassel-lite, Alex did a good job making some key throws. Good for him. Hopefully it boosts his confidence down the stretch, because if he plays like he did the first 58 KC will miss out on the post-season. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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