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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-30-2015, 03:54 PM   #751
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Old 11-30-2015, 05:31 PM   #752
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Seems pretty light. Team payroll was 115m which is 28,000/game/player. They played 16 games which implies they should make 448K at their regular rate.

Taking it another step, it's great for a Colon (1 at bat) or Guthrie or Gomes, but for Gordon he makes 1.3M for 16 regular games. So high priced guys take a severe cut for postseason
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:13 PM   #753
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Seems pretty light. Team payroll was 115m which is 28,000/game/player. They played 16 games which implies they should make 448K at their regular rate.

Taking it another step, it's great for a Colon (1 at bat) or Guthrie or Gomes, but for Gordon he makes 1.3M for 16 regular games. So high priced guys take a severe cut for postseason
They aren't paid by the game. They're paid by the season. This money is a bonus, not an extension of their salary.
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:40 PM   #754
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They aren't paid by the game. They're paid by the season. This money is a bonus, not an extension of their salary.

It's also a huge amount of money for the guys who are not players (coaches, support staff, etc).
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:48 PM   #755
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In a year or two, do you see us keeping Hosmer, Moose, Cain, Esky, Wade, etc.? Of course not. Do we have all of those guys back next season? Yes. We have a great shot to win the division again if we can keep one of Gordon/Zobrist and fill in the rotation. Need to take advantage of this window as much as we can.

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Old 11-30-2015, 06:50 PM   #756
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:05 PM   #757
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It's also a huge amount of money for the guys who are not players (coaches, support staff, etc).
I just find it to be a nice gesture by the plow horses who did all the heavy lifting to actually get them there. But it's probably a good thing in that it helps valuable contributors who are underpaid during the season.
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Will be glad to see Tiny Tim back out there. When his arm wasn't getting ready to fall off, he's a decent weapon contrast to the power arms.
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He's not a contrast to power arms. He throws 95.
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He's not a contrast to power arms. He throws 95.
Tops out at it. With his small frame compared to the others that throw 98-100 yeah it is.
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Article on what the Royals and Mets get paid for the World Series.

Royals players get $370,000 bonus for World Series win

The World Series champion Kansas City Royals generously split up their Fall Classic players' pool haul of more than $25 million into 55 full shares worth $370,069 apiece, Major League baseball said on Monday.

The Royals, who won their first World Series crown in 30 years, also awarded 8.37 partial shares and 50 cash awards in spreading the bounty to coaches, players who spent part of the season with them and club employees.

The runner-up New York Mets issued 44 full shares at just over $300,000 each, a record bonus for the losing team in MLB's championship.

The players’ pool is formed from 50 percent of gate receipts from the Wild Card games; 60 percent of the gate from the first three games of the Division Series; 60 percent from the first four games of the League Championship Series; and 60 percent of gate receipts from the first four games of the World Series.

A record total of over $69 million was divided among the 10 postseason clubs, more than $4.5 million beyond the previous high total in 2012.


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Article on what the Royals and Mets get paid for the World Series.

Royals players get $370,000 bonus for World Series win

The World Series champion Kansas City Royals generously split up their Fall Classic players' pool haul of more than $25 million into 55 full shares worth $370,069 apiece, Major League baseball said on Monday.

The Royals, who won their first World Series crown in 30 years, also awarded 8.37 partial shares and 50 cash awards in spreading the bounty to coaches, players who spent part of the season with them and club employees.

The runner-up New York Mets issued 44 full shares at just over $300,000 each, a record bonus for the losing team in MLB's championship.

The players’ pool is formed from 50 percent of gate receipts from the Wild Card games; 60 percent of the gate from the first three games of the Division Series; 60 percent from the first four games of the League Championship Series; and 60 percent of gate receipts from the first four games of the World Series.

A record total of over $69 million was divided among the 10 postseason clubs, more than $4.5 million beyond the previous high total in 2012.


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It is interesting to note that the players get the take of the sales off on just the amount of games required to win a series. I'm guessing so as the players wouldn't drag the series on for their own financial gain.
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