Chiefs Chiefs trade for Grubbs - Page 51

In58men · 03-12-2015, 11:22 AM

@AdamSchefter: Chiefs traded this year's 5th-round pick to Saints for two-time Pro Bowl guard Ben Grubbs, per league source.

**Rausch** · 03-24-2015, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One

My opinion that the Chiefs should hire Reid before anyone else even thought of it around here was really unpopular.

I didn't like it.

I loved the Dorsey hire and thought the Reid hire was a mistake.

Now, my opinion would be Reid's coaching and his players love for him is the only reason this team wasn't a $#it-show the last two years...

**ChiefGator** · 03-25-2015, 05:54 AM

So, I guess with the trade, we also managed to not sign a free agent guard, which does not endanger comp picks next year either.

P.S. Is it okay to talk about the Grubbs trade in here?

King_Chief_Fan · 03-25-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One

My opinion that the Chiefs should hire Reid before anyone else even thought of it around here was really unpopular.

are you flip flopping like you have every coach and QB since you started posting on this site?

**BossChief** · 03-25-2015, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One

My opinion that the Chiefs should hire Reid before anyone else even thought of it around here was really unpopular.

My guy was Arians cause I never thought we could get Reid.

We are gonna win playoff games THIS YEAR.

jd1020 · 03-25-2015, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

My guy was Arians cause I never thought we could get Reid.

We are gonna win playoff games THIS YEAR.

Chiefs going all the way to the AFCC!!!!

**BossChief** · 03-25-2015, 09:09 AM

Not sure if go that far, but it wouldn't shock me.

Teams with no glaring weaknesses tend to do well in the playoffs.

jd1020 · 03-25-2015, 09:10 AM

You said they would win playoff games.

RunKC · 03-25-2015, 09:31 AM

Not sure if we win playoff games bc we always **** it up, but this team should absolutely be back in the playoffs with double-digit wins this season unless we have massive injuries at key positions.

There really isn't a powerhouse team in the AFC this year.

Hootie · 03-25-2015, 09:38 AM

unlike previous years with Manning, I don't think of Denver as a lock to win the division. We have a real solid team.

but the rule of thumb for about a decade and a half has been Tom and Peyton win their divisions...

I'd give New England about 100% to win their division this year.

I'll roll with Denver 70% Chiefs 30%

and that's not a slight on the Chiefs at all ... it's just really hard to win a Peyton Manning division.

...especially if he comes out sharp like he did last season. It seems like 3 years in a row now he's been 'all-time great' Peyton Manning up until about week 12 when it gets cold.

Hootie · 03-25-2015, 09:39 AM

I do think we are the 3rd best team in the AFC, though. Right behind New England and Denver. Just unfortunate one of those teams happens to be in our freaking division.

DJ's left nut · 03-25-2015, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I do think we are the 3rd best team in the AFC, though. Right behind New England and Denver. Just unfortunate one of those teams happens to be in our freaking division.

Pittsburgh.

Their defense isn't close to what it was but they just have so many ways to beat you on offense.

With the defections in NE, I don't think they're clearly a cut above by any stretch. I agree that you have to give them any ties based on their past successes, but they could just as easily come back to the pack a big given the strength of their division.

It's a really really tight AFC. I think 11 teams could make legitimate cases that they're playoff teams next season.

Tier 1 AFC Teams:
Denver
NE
Pitt.

Tier 2:
Colts
Chiefs
Bills
Bengals
Ravens

Tier 3:
Dolphins
Chargers
Texans

Tier 4:
Browns
Jets

Tier 5:
Raiders
Jags
Titans

Tier 1 should be playoff locks, tier 2 should provide your other 3 playoff teams with tier 3 having a chance to sneak a team in there. Tier 4 could be frisky through Thanksgiving and Tier 5 is just gonna suck.

DJ's left nut · 03-25-2015, 10:00 AM

Honestly, the entire season will come down to getting through this goddamn Manning mental block this team has.

Lose to him twice again and they won't make the playoffs. Frankly, lose to the ****ing Broncos twice again and I just won't care if they make the playoffs either way. If they can't figure out a way to finally beat this friggen guy, then they're just not mentally tough enough to do any damage in the post-season.

The ****er is mortal. I sat there for that nighttime debacle in Arrowhead last year and watched that duck-chucking has-been look more beateable than Damon Huard. I've seen the Chiefs lose by 40 and not been as disgusted by them as I was watching them that night.

They're scared of the Broncos. They see them take the field and they're just beaten by the uniforms. There was no way on God's green earth that they should have lost that game last year. It's 100% between their ears and if they can't get over it, they deserve to sit at home in January.

The goal should be the division and they have the talent to do it. They just can't keep spotting Denver 2 games every friggen year.

Hootie · 03-25-2015, 10:08 AM

the game @ Arrowhead was a damn joke

at no point did we even look like we belonged on that field

I'm interested to see the first month of Denver games this year. If Manning looks like he did at the end of last year, that team is done. Just ****ing done. If he looked like that because of the reported injury, though, yeah...we're ****ed.

It's well documented (trust me, it is) that Peyton has had career long struggles in the postseason (whether or not that is on Peyton Manning I don't feel like debating today)...but that dude is a ****ing lock to win his division if he's right. Hell, he threw 55 TD's two years ago with 60% of the arm strength he had in his prime. He just knows what the defense is doing at all times and he doesn't make very many wrong reads. And Sutton can't figure it out.

I SO wanted Denver to 86 Peyton this offseason. I knew they wouldn't, because it doesn't make sense, but it sucks sharing a division with that guy.

Just like I'm sure it's tough being a Bills / Jets or Dolphins fan.

That said, we have the talent to beat a Peyton team just like the old Jags teams used to give Peyton's Colts all sorts of troubles...

but we have to control the clock and control the T.O.P. like we did last year against Seattle. That first half, offensively, was a thing of beauty. MJD and Fred Taylor (and the Jags) used to just turn those Indy/Jags games into 17-14 slugfests.

I think we're a better team than Denver this year ... but the NFL is still mostly about the QB ... and unfortunately, they have one of the elites.

Hootie · 03-25-2015, 10:10 AM

and our defensive game plan against Denver should be pretty easy

...force Peyton into those "robotic reads" (that tk13 calls them) and force him to throw deep balls to Emmanuel and Demaryius. That's the throw he struggles with now.

RunKC · 03-25-2015, 10:20 AM

I don't think they are scared of Manning. They almost beat him early on in Denver last year.

Manning didn't beat us at Arrowhead. CJ Anderson did. Hell Manning had trouble throwing downfield against us.

We lost at Arrowhead bc the offense lacked so much talent and we weren't prepared. Our OL sucked ass. Our receivers sucked ass.

I feel much better about our chances this year.

03-12-2015, 11:22 AM
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03-25-2015, 05:54 AM	#752
ChiefGator Can these boys not play? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Northcentral Florida Casino cash: $7582956	So, I guess with the trade, we also managed to not sign a free agent guard, which does not endanger comp picks next year either. P.S. Is it okay to talk about the Grubbs trade in here? __________________ - Mark
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03-25-2015, 09:09 AM	#756
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1524088	Not sure if go that far, but it wouldn't shock me. Teams with no glaring weaknesses tend to do well in the playoffs.
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03-25-2015, 09:10 AM	#757
jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7692645	You said they would win playoff games.
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03-25-2015, 09:31 AM	#758
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1889611	Not sure if we win playoff games bc we always ** it up, but this team should absolutely be back in the playoffs with double-digit wins this season unless we have massive injuries at key positions. There really isn't a powerhouse team in the AFC this year. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley**
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03-25-2015, 09:38 AM	#759
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	unlike previous years with Manning, I don't think of Denver as a lock to win the division. We have a real solid team. but the rule of thumb for about a decade and a half has been Tom and Peyton win their divisions... I'd give New England about 100% to win their division this year. I'll roll with Denver 70% Chiefs 30% and that's not a slight on the Chiefs at all ... it's just really hard to win a Peyton Manning division. ...especially if he comes out sharp like he did last season. It seems like 3 years in a row now he's been 'all-time great' Peyton Manning up until about week 12 when it gets cold.
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03-25-2015, 09:39 AM	#760
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I do think we are the 3rd best team in the AFC, though. Right behind New England and Denver. Just unfortunate one of those teams happens to be in our freaking division.
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03-25-2015, 10:00 AM	#762
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2639099	Honestly, the entire season will come down to getting through this goddamn Manning mental block this team has. Lose to him twice again and they won't make the playoffs. Frankly, lose to the ***ing Broncos twice again* and I just won't care if they make the playoffs either way. If they can't figure out a way to finally beat this friggen guy, then they're just not mentally tough enough to do any damage in the post-season. The ***er is mortal. I sat there for that nighttime debacle in Arrowhead last year and watched that duck-chucking has-been look more beateable than Damon Huard. I've seen the Chiefs lose by 40 and not been as disgusted by them as I was watching them that night. They're scared* of the Broncos. They see them take the field and they're just beaten by the uniforms. There was no way on God's green earth that they should have lost that game last year. It's 100% between their ears and if they can't get over it, they deserve to sit at home in January. The goal should be the division and they have the talent to do it. They just can't keep spotting Denver 2 games every friggen year. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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03-25-2015, 10:08 AM	#763
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	the game @ Arrowhead was a damn joke at no point did we even look like we belonged on that field I'm interested to see the first month of Denver games this year. If Manning looks like he did at the end of last year, that team is done. Just **ing done. If he looked like that because of the reported injury, though, yeah...we're ed. It's well documented (trust me, it is) that Peyton has had career long struggles in the postseason (whether or not that is on Peyton Manning I don't feel like debating today)...but that dude is a **ing lock to win his division if he's right. Hell, he threw 55 TD's two years ago with 60% of the arm strength he had in his prime. He just knows what the defense is doing at all times and he doesn't make very many wrong reads. And Sutton can't figure it out. I SO wanted Denver to 86 Peyton this offseason. I knew they wouldn't, because it doesn't make sense, but it sucks sharing a division with that guy. Just like I'm sure it's tough being a Bills / Jets or Dolphins fan. That said, we have the talent to beat a Peyton team just like the old Jags teams used to give Peyton's Colts all sorts of troubles... but we have to control the clock and control the T.O.P. like we did last year against Seattle. That first half, offensively, was a thing of beauty. MJD and Fred Taylor (and the Jags) used to just turn those Indy/Jags games into 17-14 slugfests. I think we're a better team than Denver this year ... but the NFL is still mostly about the QB ... and unfortunately, they have one of the elites.
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03-25-2015, 10:10 AM	#764
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	and our defensive game plan against Denver should be pretty easy ...force Peyton into those "robotic reads" (that tk13 calls them) and force him to throw deep balls to Emmanuel and Demaryius. That's the throw he struggles with now.
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03-25-2015, 10:20 AM	#765
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1889611	I don't think they are scared of Manning. They almost beat him early on in Denver last year. Manning didn't beat us at Arrowhead. CJ Anderson did. Hell Manning had trouble throwing downfield against us. We lost at Arrowhead bc the offense lacked so much talent and we weren't prepared. Our OL sucked ass. Our receivers sucked ass. I feel much better about our chances this year. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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