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Old 03-23-2014, 07:59 AM  
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:32 PM   #751
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Too much randomness involved in single elimination NCAA games to define conference success entirely based on that. I'd assume that would be easy enough to understand, but apparently not.
Like I said, schizo

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NCAAs, might as well flip a coin and give everyone a participation medal.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:33 PM   #752
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Yeah... UNI was upsetting... ironically, with how much rival fans bring up UNI/Bradley/Bucknell, Michigan was the truly baffling and un-Self-like loss in that group (sometimes you just gotta tip your hat for a shot like Burke's though).

It was a slow progression from "they'll get it.... they'll buy in.... Self's teams always peak at the right time.... uh, eventually..... well..... maybe they're just soft.... yeah, they're soft".... they weren't winning the national championship. I wanted to see them play Florida again... they probably would have played loose and we could have seen Wiggins a couple more times and maybe Embiid once or twice.
This team never really had that drive or 'want' that other KU teams did. They lacked intensity routinely and never committed themselves on the defensive end, relying on Embiid bailouts all season. I noted it around mid-season too...they were very good, but they were never going to be great (at least by the standards of other Self teams). And that applied even with Embiid.

Would have been nice to watch Embiid play just one more time before going to the NBA, though. He's going to be exciting to watch develop (so will Wiggins for that matter).
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:34 PM   #753
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You have been spot on throughout this thread.

Exactly.

The Jayhawks deliver. Period. This was KU's softest team since Roy's kids were still around, and they still had a chance to tie it at the end. It sucks, but that's sports.

I'll stick with the Jayhawks over the other KC-area teams, tyvm.
I view the Cardinals similarly. I hold them to very high expectations, but they've also proven to be an excellent organization. The Chiefs and Mizzou are largely (at times, complete) ****-ups. I get really disappointed with Cardinal losses, especially when I think they don't play to the level they're capable of, but at no point would I ever equate them to the Chiefs or Tigers.

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Like I said, schizo
Hardly. I don't sit around whining about mediocre Chiefs teams losing in the playoffs, I expect it. That's what mediocre teams do. Have no idea how they're comparable to the best team in college basketball over the last decade.
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Like I said, schizo

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NCAAs, might as well flip a coin and give everyone a participation medal.
That's ridiculous. How many games do the '08 Giants win against the Patriots if they play a seven game serious?
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I view the Cardinals similarly. I hold them to very high expectations, but they've also proven to be an excellent organization. The Chiefs and Mizzou are largely (at times, complete) ****-ups. I get really disappointed with Cardinal losses, especially when I think they don't play to the level they're capable of, but at no point would I ever equate them to the Chiefs or Tigers.

Most posters in this thread would have jack-shit for sports if not for KU BBall.
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I view the Cardinals similarly. I hold them to very high expectations, but they've also proven to be an excellent organization. The Chiefs and Mizzou are largely (at times, complete) ****-ups. I get really disappointed with Cardinal losses, especially when I think they don't play to the level they're capable of, but at no point would I ever equate them to the Chiefs or Tigers.

Most posters in this thread would have jack-shit for sports if not for KU BBall.

God help me if I didn't have KU basketball.
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My greatest concern with this team was its youth. IMO Bill Self is terrific coaching upperclassman but average to below average at coaching freshman. Outside of McLenmore (who actually spent 2 years at KU) none of Bill Self's "hamburger boys" has made an impact during their one year of CBB the Kentucky's, Memphis', or Duke's freshman seem to make.
Not too sure the facts support that argument. Wiggins was probably one of the 10-15 players in the NCAA this season (better than McLemore who was rather one dimensional). And on a per minute basis, Embiid was probably the most impactful player in the country when on the floor.

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Most of you have read on another thread I am predicting this will be the year HCBS will go on to the NBA. Should that happen maybe KU Basketball should re-evaluate the type of players KU recruits and get players who will be "program guys" and spend 4-5 years in college. That seems to become the new way to succeed in the tourney now.
NBA? And go where exactly?
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I view the Cardinals similarly. I hold them to very high expectations, but they've also proven to be an excellent organization. The Chiefs and Mizzou are largely (at times, complete) ****-ups. I get really disappointed with Cardinal losses, especially when I think they don't play to the level they're capable of, but at no point would I ever equate them to the Chiefs or Tigers.

Most posters in this thread would have jack-shit for sports if not for KU BBall.
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I view the Cardinals similarly. I hold them to very high expectations, but they've also proven to be an excellent organization. The Chiefs and Mizzou are largely (at times, complete) ****-ups. I get really disappointed with Cardinal losses, especially when I think they don't play to the level they're capable of, but at no point would I ever equate them to the Chiefs or Tigers.

Most posters in this thread would have jack-shit for sports if not for KU BBall.
No, I've got the Jays, Leafs and Raptors. Oh wait...
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I view the Cardinals similarly. I hold them to very high expectations, but they've also proven to be an excellent organization. The Chiefs and Mizzou are largely (at times, complete) ****-ups. I get really disappointed with Cardinal losses, especially when I think they don't play to the level they're capable of, but at no point would I ever equate them to the Chiefs or Tigers.

Most posters in this thread would have jack-shit for sports if not for KU BBall.
Uhh.......you do know the Royals finished over .500 and the Chiefs made the playoffs oh, and yeah our MLS team won the league title last year?
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Uhh.......you do know the Royals finished over .500 and the Chiefs made the playoffs oh, and yeah our MLS team won the league title last year?
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Not too sure the facts support that argument. Wiggins was probably one of the 10-15 players in the NCAA this season (better than McLemore who was rather one dimensional). And on a per minute basis, Embiid was probably the most impactful player in the country when on the floor.


NBA? And go where exactly?
Try San Antonio... where his boss would be his roommate from Okie st.
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