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Old 07-02-2013, 01:15 PM  
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Brandon and KC to talk contract
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/kansas-...173000220.html


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Old 07-18-2013, 09:57 PM   #736
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Oh, stop being a dickhead.

The point is that Atlanta has sacrificed draft choice after draft choice in order to surround Matt Ryan with talent and they've got almost nothing to show for it in five seasons.

Pretty much the same as Miami since taking Jake Long.
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Since Ryan was drafted, here are the picks in the first three rounds

2008
2 offense (0 skill position)
3 defense


2009
0 offense (0 skill position)
3 defense

2010
1 offense (0 skill position)
2 defense

2011
1 offense (1 skill position)
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2012
2 offense (0 skill position)
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They have literally drafted 1 skill position player to go with him in 5 years in the first three rounds.
Keep ****ing that chicken, Dane.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:58 PM   #737
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How so? If he walks, that's 50%. If he stays, that's 50%.

If anything, it's a non-committal statement.

Are we going to do this all night?
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:00 PM   #738
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Keep ****ing that chicken, Dane.
Um, in 2009, they gave up a second round pick in 2010 for Gonzalez.

I guess that doesn't count though, right?

In 2011, they gave up multiple picks for Julio Jones.

But I guess that doesn't count either, right?
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:00 PM   #739
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:01 PM   #740
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How so? If he walks, that's 50%. If he stays, that's 50%.

If anything, it's a non-committal statement.

Are we going to do this all night?
The Colts might trade Andrew Luck to the Chiefs for a Busch Light.

If they trade him, that's 50%. If he stays, that's 50%.

You really are not an intelligent person. Not even a little bit.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:01 PM   #741
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You really are not an intelligent person. Not even a little bit.


And you're just full of hot air.

Good job.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:02 PM   #742
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Why do you need to me answer this question? Don't you know the answer?
Oh. I know what MY answer is.

I know that Matt Ryan is head and shoulders better than Chad Pennington.

You would agree with that statement, right?
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:03 PM   #743
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Um, in 2009, they gave up a second round pick in 2010 for Gonzalez.

I guess that doesn't count though, right?

In 2011, they gave up multiple picks for Julio Jones.

But I guess that doesn't count either, right?
15 draft picks...1 skill position player.

If you want to include the trade chips, go ahead...17 picks to get 3 skill position players. He made the playoffs as a rookie prior to adding any of them.
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Oh. I know what MY answer is.

I know that Matt Ryan is head and shoulders better than Chad Pennington.

You would agree with that statement, right?
Better than Chad Pennington after his surgery? Yes.

The 2008 Miami Dolphins beat exactly one team with a winning record that seasons, the Jets, who went 9-7.

They reverted the following three seasons to being a sub-par team. Until this off-season, they didn't have a legitimate number one receiver. Their offenses were bland and boring.

Regardless, I don't know how you can state that their fortunes would be any different had they taken Ryan instead. They haven't near the franchise stability, front office, personnel or coaching as the Atlanta Falcons during that period.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:07 PM   #745
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Better than Chad Pennington after his surgery? Yes.

The 2008 Miami Dolphins beat exactly one team with a winning record that seasons, the Jets, who went 9-7.

They reverted the following three seasons to being a sub-par team. Until this off-season, they didn't have a legitimate number one receiver. Their offenses were bland and boring.

Regardless, I don't know how you can state that their fortunes would be any different had they taken Ryan instead. They haven't near the franchise stability, front office, personnel or coaching as the Atlanta Falcons during that period.
Didn't Brandon Marshall play there?
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15 draft picks...1 skill position player.

If you want to include the trade chips, go ahead...17 picks to get 3 skill position players. He made the playoffs as a rookie prior to adding any of them.
And, he lost in the playoffs. That team wasn't nearly as bad as their record indicated in 2007. They had solid personnel and had been to the NFC Championship just a few years prior.

The Falcons problems in 2007 stemmed from Bobby Petrino and Michael Vick.
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Yeah, he had three TD's in 2010 and six in 2011.
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Yeah, he had three TD's in 2010 and six in 2011.
could Matt Ryan have done something to change that?


Are you sure we can't say Miami would definitely be better off today if they had drafted Ryan over long?
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Better than Chad Pennington after his surgery? Yes.

The 2008 Miami Dolphins beat exactly one team with a winning record that seasons, the Jets, who went 9-7.

They reverted the following three seasons to being a sub-par team. Until this off-season, they didn't have a legitimate number one receiver. Their offenses were bland and boring.

Regardless, I don't know how you can state that their fortunes would be any different had they taken Ryan instead. They haven't near the franchise stability, front office, personnel or coaching as the Atlanta Falcons during that period.

They had enough talent (with competent QB play) to win a lot of games in 2008 and they fell backwards when Chad got hurt.

Now, are you gonna sit there and say they wouldn't have been better with a quarterback BETTER than Pennington for the last 5 years?

Haha ok
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I think most would agree Brandon Marshall is a number one receiver
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