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Old 01-16-2017, 01:22 PM  
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Ten Reason's why The Chiefs Lost

With my apologies to GBlowfish, I have my own 10 things list that I would like to share. Because there is plenty of blame to go around. I present, 10 reasons why the Chiefs lost…Again (Other than because Chiefs, that's obvious!)

10. Defense unable to make a stop. I would like to start by saying that the defense did well at keeping the Pittsburgh offense out of the endzone. Holding them to 18 points should have been enough. But it wasn’t/ The fact remains that they forced one punt the entire night. One! That is unacceptable. They force one more punt and the final score is 17-15 Chiefs and we win. So the defense is partly accountable.

9. Still on the defense here. Justin Houston on Antonio Brown?? Really??? You would think that Sutton would have realized that was a bad idea when Ben to Brown resulted in the longest play of the night in the first quarter. But not Sutton. Hey. I have a great idea. The game is on the line. Let’s try that coverage again. Surely it will work this time. SMH. Sutton has done well this year with covering losses to 4 of our front 7 to IR, but he deserves his share of the blame for this loss.

8. No pass rush. Dee Ford was tearing things up until Houston returned. Houston looked like his old self for exactly one game this year. He should be over his injury. VonDouchebag stepped up when it mattered for the Donks. Our passrushers were no where to be found. Unacceptable. They too share in the blame.

7. Special teams. This one actually belongs at number 10. They didn’t make huge mistakes, but they didn’t make any plays either. We have got arguably the best returner and best special teams coordinator in the league. Pittsburgh is known for not very good special teams. But it sure didn’t look that way in our failure of a game. Hill only got one chance at a punt return, so there’s nothing to say about that. But when he tried to return kicks, our blockers got blown up. He never made it to the 25, so every return was a net loss. With the way our offense was playing, we needed every bit of field position we could get and the special teams failed to deliver. Therefore, they too share in the blame. A much smaller share, but nonetheless a share of the blame is theirs.

6. Officiating. Again, a very small portion of the blame goes here. I hate to blame officiating at all, because it’s more excuse making than anything else. Good teams should be able to overcome it. That said, the refs sure weren’t doing us any favors. Pittsburgh was blatantly holding all night and never gets called, but we get called for a ticky tack hold to negate a game tying 2 point conversion? I call BS. Then there were 2 blatant DPI’s in the 3rd quarter that it is just unbelievable that the ref’s could just ignore them. Once again, we were capable of overcoming that. We did, in fact. A couple of times. But not nearly enough. So, even though I hate the excuses, I also award a small share of the blame to the officiating.

5. Travis Kelce. Kelce is a stud. Believed by most to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL. But dude, you have got to grow up. That 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty was totally unacceptable. Luckily, Smith threw a 26 yard pass to overcome it and get the first down anyway, but those kind of things are hard to overcome, and we needed every yard last night. Kelce also had 1, maybe 2 critical drops last night. In the biggest game of his career, he let his team down. Travis Kelce, you too deserve your share of the blame.

4. The offensive line. For most of the first half, Smith was under constant pressure. The hit on Smith as he threw the ball resulting in the interception was completely on the line. Fisher may have had his worst game of the year last night. Maybe his hold that negated the 2 point conversion doesn’t get called 99 times out of 100, but it got called and it cost the Chiefs the game. They also were horrible at run blocking. There were no holes for our running backs all night. Offensive line., you too deserve your share of the blame.

3. Alex Smith. I am mostly neutral about Smith, but tend to leaning more in favor of him than against him. I’ve seen him step up and play like an elite quarterback, but those instances are rare. And that’s what frustrates me. I know that he is capable. But he just doesn’t do it enough. Last night, he was great on the opening drive. That drive was executed to perfection and gave us all hope for the night. But then he disappeared for the next 3 quarters. Granted, he was under a lot of pressure, but the franchise quarterbacks make some of their greatest plays under pressure. Smith did finally move the ball in the 4th quarter. He made some nice throws, like the 25 yard pass on 3rd and 25 after the Kelce screw up. And let’s not forget about delay of game. In the end, he didn’t do enough to bring us the victory, and he too deserves his share of the blame.

2. Drops. If I remember right, we had 5 drops last night by 4 players. And most of those drops were game changers. We have some real playmakers on this offense. This was their time to shine. One or two of those drops get caught, and we’re likely preparing for New England instead of next season.

1. Andy Friggin Reid. Ugh! I am so frustrated with Reid right now. I could almost do a top 10 just on how he cost us the game. Where do I start? Let’s start with his play calling. Pittsburgh has an inexperienced secondary that is vulnerable to the deep pass. We have Hill, who is a legitimate deep threat. Yet we never even tried one deep pass the entire first half! Why?? Because of the pressure on Smith? Call it anyway. Once they see that we are willing to go downfield, they will have to respect that. Then the short yardage stuff will open up. Notice how we moved the ball downfield when we started going deep in the 4th quarter? If Reid had done that sooner, we would have won this game easy. Ugh! So frustrating. Speaking of the 4th quarter, don’t get me started on the 7 minute drive while trailing. While on the subject of time management, we blew 2 critical timeouts in the 4th quarter. Both of them I believe to avoid delay of game. We are the Home team!! That is supposed to happen to the road team. Could you not get the plays in quick enough? Totally Unacceptable. Then there was the decision to kickoff deep after the last touchdown. I know that the onside kick is a low probability kick. But when we had force only one punt all night and there we sat with 1 time out and 2:43 on the clock(again, thanks to poor clock management), stopping them was also a low probability. If the onside kick failed, well we gave up field position. They only needed one first down to ice the game anyway. Everyone deserves their share of the blame. But Andy Reid deserves the lion’s share.

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Old 01-16-2017, 08:54 PM   #61
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That hold on Fisher was clearly a hold.

He not only wrapped his arm around Harrison's neck, but he pulled the back of his jersey.

It was a take down the WWE would be proud of.
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And that 7:00 drive?

Anther case of poor clock and game management, and a total lack of any urgency.

Even if the Chiefs had gotten that tie, there's no way they are winning, giving the ball back to Big Ben with 2:30+ left on the clock.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:06 PM   #63
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We have a good QB.

We have a good HC.

We have good ownership

We have good management.

Unfortunately at the very least one of those has to be great to go to the Super Bowl.
We might have great management in Dorsey.
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:15 PM   #64
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We might have great management in Dorsey.
Not fully sold on his greatness. Having seen Favre and Rodgers up close doesn't he have the power to bring in some real competition for Smith?
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:47 PM   #65
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Very nice presentation of the total team fail.

Every aspect of the team needs to look in the mirror this morning.

What was so weird is that we are not good enough to overcome a lot of adversity like you stated but at the end of the game we were still right there and made that drive to tie that game, which we really had no right to be in. Someone else took me to task saying we didn't tie it up in the 4th quarter but I will never ever believe that in my own heart! This team did tie it up and the officials took it away.

With that being said, based on your observations and analysis, we probably turn right around and give up a game winning field goal to them but would have been fun (maybe) to see.
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Really disappointed by both Houston and Ford. Remember when a lot of us were giddy as hell when Ford was having 10 sacks around mid season and Justin Houston was gonna come back and raise hell in the backfield?

HTF did that turn out? Ford didn't do jack shit for the last 6-7 games of the season, and Houston was dominant for most of the 1st Denver game, then he gets held back due to injury and then becomes even more ineffective when he returned. I think he's mailed it in...he got paid. **** it. If Houston was playing injured, then they should have just sat the mother****er because his pass rush has literally been non-existent (other than @ DEN game).

And Dee Ford...wtf have you been for half of the god damn season? Dude was on a tear and then all of a sudden just hit a wall and the sacks stopped. Take your QB pressures stats and shove them right up your ass. This dude's being paid to sack the QB. OMG Ford's first step...it's god like oh my! **** that shit Dee Ford rushes himself completely out of the play 85% of the time.

Tamba just needs to retire. It's been real, he's been great for KC and unfortunately has been on some of the franchise's worst teams ever not to his fault. He had shitty head coaches, GM's, QB's you name it. He's been through all of it. Much respect for the guy that wanted to stay through all of that mess. I wouldn't have.

I'm just mad as ****. This franchise is a joke.

Chiefs are nothing more than a paper tiger with probowlers on paper.
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.it's like he took the bye to script the first drive and then reverted back to what appears to be shooting from the hip, gimmicky and calling those damn screens instead of slants.. There was no sense of urgency, no fire. Just flat.

.....when I watch his playcalling, I can hear all the uhhhs in his upcoming presser.
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And that 7:00 drive?

Anther case of poor clock and game management, and a total lack of any urgency.

Even if the Chiefs had gotten that tie, there's no way they are winning, giving the ball back to Big Ben with 2:30+ left on the clock.
Agreed.

The Chiefs gave themselves zero margin for error with that 7 minute drive and then wasting a time out on that drive as well.

If the Chiefs didn't get the TD plus the two point conversion it was basically game over.
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Loser DNA.

Some franchises win when the game matters, others don't.

This team came out and did NOTHING well on Sunday. Not one goddamn thing. And when I try to come up with players that actually played well, I don't think I can really come up with any of those either. I don't recall Peters or Mitchell really getting beat up. I also can't think of any obvious errors that Conley made.

But otherwise I can't think of a single player that didn't have some sort of key blown assignment or execution error. And that includes Jah Reid who I'm pretty sure played only one snap and blew his block badly enough to create a pick. Just a comedy of errors across the board. And let's not even get into the coaching as I believe that particular horse has been beaten to death.

I'm done having expectations for this franchise. They've officially moved into St. Louis Blues territory - I know they're going to **** it up, it's only a question of how at this point.

This franchise exists to be the bit players in everyone else's story. Loser DNA.
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Really disappointed by both Houston and Ford. Remember when a lot of us were giddy as hell when Ford was having 10 sacks around mid season and Justin Houston was gonna come back and raise hell in the backfield?

HTF did that turn out? Ford didn't do jack shit for the last 6-7 games of the season, and Houston was dominant for most of the 1st Denver game, then he gets held back due to injury and then becomes even more ineffective when he returned. I think he's mailed it in...he got paid. **** it. If Houston was playing injured, then they should have just sat the mother****er because his pass rush has literally been non-existent (other than @ DEN game).

And Dee Ford...wtf have you been for half of the god damn season? Dude was on a tear and then all of a sudden just hit a wall and the sacks stopped. Take your QB pressures stats and shove them right up your ass. This dude's being paid to sack the QB. OMG Ford's first step...it's god like oh my! **** that shit Dee Ford rushes himself completely out of the play 85% of the time.

Tamba just needs to retire. It's been real, he's been great for KC and unfortunately has been on some of the franchise's worst teams ever not to his fault. He had shitty head coaches, GM's, QB's you name it. He's been through all of it. Much respect for the guy that wanted to stay through all of that mess. I wouldn't have.

I'm just mad as ****. This franchise is a joke.

Chiefs are nothing more than a paper tiger with probowlers on paper.
I've been thinking about this too. Our pass rush was pretty much non-existent against Pittsburgh and for pretty much the entire second half of the season.

When Houston returned, I thought we'd have an unstoppable pass rush. Ford was already having a great year, we know what Houston can do, and Houston's return would allow Tamba to rotate in and stay fresh. Plus, Jones was becoming a monster in the middle, providing a push. Instead, Ford disappeared, Houston was ineffective (other than the Denver game), and Tamba was ineffective.
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I'm done having expectations for this franchise. They've officially moved into St. Louis Blues territory - I know they're going to **** it up, it's only a question of how at this point.
That's funny. I always explain to St. Louis folks that being a Chiefs fan is the NFL version of being a Blues fan.
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How much poor execution was in this game?

-Berry not reading the field well in coverage
-Toub's ST's unit had its worst day blocking on returns like ass
-Hill being tackled by a slow LB
-Kelce drop
-Alex misses to Maclin/Hill
-Poe getting blown up at the LOS
-LB's/DL not using gap integrity
-no pass rush

It was a very poorly coached game and that's a big eyesore for Andy's "bye week magic" stat.

I believe Toub wasn't focused for this game at all bc he was interviewing for HC jobs. Our ST's was god awful in this game minus 1 play by Eric Murray
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How much poor execution was in this game?

-Berry not reading the field well in coverage
-Toub's ST's unit had its worst day blocking on returns like ass
-Hill being tackled by a slow LB
-Kelce drop
-Alex misses to Maclin/Hill
-Poe getting blown up at the LOS
-LB's/DL not using gap integrity
-no pass rush

It was a very poorly coached game and that's a big eyesore for Andy's "bye week magic" stat.

I believe Toub wasn't focused for this game at all bc he was interviewing for HC jobs. Our ST's was god awful in this game minus 1 play by Eric Murray
West flat dropping the ball when he was running in the open field.
Fulton getting drawn off by a hard count at home.
Alex forgetting to snap the ball on 3rd and 1.
Jones/Reyes routinely taking themselves out of running lanes (n/m, you covered this).


It was an appallingly bad performance and that's why I'm left with 'loser DNA' as my only conclusion. There's just no explanation for EVERYONE being dogshit. These guys aren't kids; they've virtually all been playoff tested at this point. And it damn sure can't be complacence because they sure as hell haven't accomplished anything.

I just don't understand how the entire 53 man roster and every single coaching unit can have come out there and shit the bed like that.
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West flat dropping the ball when he was running in the open field.
Fulton getting drawn off by a hard count at home.
Alex forgetting to snap the ball on 3rd and 1.
Jones/Reyes routinely taking themselves out of running lanes (n/m, you covered this).


It was an appallingly bad performance and that's why I'm left with 'loser DNA' as my only conclusion. There's just no explanation for EVERYONE being dogshit. These guys aren't kids; they've virtually all been playoff tested at this point. And it damn sure can't be complacence because they sure as hell haven't accomplished anything.

I just don't understand how the entire 53 man roster and every single coaching unit can have come out there and shit the bed like that.

it was uncanny..its was like a different team from the previous two weeks.

I saw both Peters and Kelce dancing between plays...offense and Smith casually strolling onto the field.

They didn't WANT it...and it showed.
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Alex Smith X 10.

A great or even very good QB can help a team compensate for other deficiencies.

See Green Bay.
Agreed.

However, there's only one QB that can consistently overcome so many problems. It's Aaron Rodgers as you said. And there's only one Aaron Rodgers.

And he plays for GB whose name is Aaron Rodgers.
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