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Old 06-08-2016, 08:23 PM  
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Broncos and Von Miller break off contract talks.
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Old 06-09-2016, 04:35 PM   #61
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And Miller is coming off an all time playoff run to the SB.

He's going to be rewarded for his contributions with what will probably be the highest paid defensive contract in the NFL.

I'd imagine if he really wanted to keep Malik, they would have. Same with Brock.
Did you completely miss the low ball offer to Miller?

Because that's my point. You don't let all of those guys walk so you could supposedly pay him then turn around and give an insult of an offer, then withdraw it.

That is a slap in the face to Miller and a bad message to send to the rest of your team.
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Old 06-09-2016, 04:39 PM   #62
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Did you completely miss the low ball offer to Miller?

Because that's my point. You don't let all of those guys walk so you could supposedly pay him then turn around and give an insult of an offer, then withdraw it.

That is a slap in the face to Miller and a bad message to send to the rest of your team.
Miller and his agent have agreed to the years and money of the contract. They're now haggling over the amount of guaranteed money and structure. I wouldn't read in too much on all the hoopla.
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Old 06-09-2016, 04:42 PM   #63
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Miller and his agent have agreed to the years and money of the contract. They're now haggling over the amount of guaranteed money and structure. I wouldn't read in too much on all the hoopla.
Yea, but it's always about the guaranteed money, and the guaranteed money is WAY off. It's significantly less than Vernon got from the Giants. If you don't think that's a slap in the face....
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Old 06-09-2016, 05:06 PM   #64
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The problem with guaranteed money is that he would get it even if he was arrested for mass murder. That's a significant risk for the Broncos.
Don't besmirch Von's good name
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Yea, but it's always about the guaranteed money, and the guaranteed money is WAY off. It's significantly less than Vernon got from the Giants. If you don't think that's a slap in the face....
Some of you are too fixated on the process.
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And Miller is coming off an all time playoff run to the SB.

He's going to be rewarded for his contributions with what will probably be the highest paid defensive contract in the NFL.

I'd imagine if he really wanted to keep Malik, they would have. Same with Brock.
Elway kept matching Brocks offers from Houston all the way up to 16.5m per...after that, Brock stopped taking Denver's calls and completely ignored them, even though they kept calling him trying to negotiate. Brock got benched and then low balled with the initial offer from Denver being 8m per.

A very similar situation happened with Malik.

Danny Trevathan knew he was leaving in December and even said he was going to Chicago to play under John Fox.
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Old 06-09-2016, 05:34 PM   #67
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Some of you are too fixated on the process.
I feel sorry for those who are banking on "Super Bowl champs to COMPLETE IMPLOSION"(!).

Talk about delusional.
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Elway kept matching Brocks offers from Houston all the way up to 16.5m per...after that, Brock stopped taking Denver's calls and completely ignored them, even though they kept calling him trying to negotiate. Brock got benched and then low balled with the initial offer from Denver being 8m per.

A very similar situation happened with Malik.

Danny Trevathan knew he was leaving in December and even said he was going to Chicago to play under John Fox.
Yup, nothing to see here. All clearly just part of the plan/process for Elway.
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Old 06-09-2016, 05:43 PM   #69
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Elway kept matching Brocks offers from Houston all the way up to 16.5m per...after that, Brock stopped taking Denver's calls and completely ignored them, even though they kept calling him trying to negotiate. Brock got benched and then low balled with the initial offer from Denver being 8m per.

A very similar situation happened with Malik.

Danny Trevathan knew he was leaving in December and even said he was going to Chicago to play under John Fox.
Both Malik and Tevathan are replaceable. As for Von, we are over a month away from the deadline. It will get worked out.
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Elway kept matching Brocks offers from Houston all the way up to 16.5m per...after that, Brock stopped taking Denver's calls and completely ignored them, even though they kept calling him trying to negotiate. Brock got benched and then low balled with the initial offer from Denver being 8m per.

A very similar situation happened with Malik.

Danny Trevathan knew he was leaving in December and even said he was going to Chicago to play under John Fox.
By this same token, couldn't you say the chiefs lowballed Sean smith?

You guus are making tok much of this
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Miller and his agent have agreed to the years and money of the contract. They're now haggling over the amount of guaranteed money and structure. I wouldn't read in too much on all the hoopla.
Players always care about guaranteed $$ over anything. That's what always takes so long.

If you're Von Miller and Elway offers you $10 million less than Suh in gauranteed $$ in the first 2 years, you absolutely look at that and demand more.

Yes that is an insult. SB MVP. Denver is nothing without him. He deserves a contract structure that's better than the top D player with more guaranteed $$.
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By this same token, couldn't you say the chiefs lowballed Sean smith?

You guus are making tok much of this
One guy vs. several (and pretty much all of their FA's including their MVP)

Yea, exactly the same thing!

So you're telling me if you're Von Miller you aren't pissed at that ****ing low ball offer and then the arrogance to withdraw it?
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Players always care about guaranteed $$ over anything. That's what always takes so long.

If you're Von Miller and Elway offers you $10 million less than Suh in gauranteed $$ in the first 2 years, you absolutely look at that and demand more.

Yes that is an insult. SB MVP. Denver is nothing without him. He deserves a contract structure that's better than the top D player with more guaranteed $$.
And he will get it
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One guy vs. several (and pretty much all of their FA's)

Yea, exactly the same thing!

So you're telling me if you're Von Miller you aren't pissed at that ****ing low ball offer and then the arrogance to withdraw it?
Brandon albert, Jeff Allen ,schwartz, Sean smith, Rodney hudson, etc etc.
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Brandon albert, Jeff Allen ,schwartz, Sean smith, Rodney hudson, etc etc.
Allen? Schwartz? Albert? Are you ****ing serious?

Lol all different offseasons, and none after winning a SB. You're completely missing the point as usual. I'm done.
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