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Conley has a lot of tools, but he never had those fast feet that you see from an Amari Cooper. His speed comes from his length. While that can be put to good use in a variety of ways, he was never going to be a versatile true #1. O.City gave a very good comp for him - Vincent Jackson. Or if you want to be a little more realistic, how about Chris Chambers? Chambers was a damn valuable 2nd weapon in this league for several years. Maybe we get extremely lucky and he's more than that, but there are 31 other teams in this league and very smart guys are running at least 20 of them. The odds were never great that Conley was going to be a Dez Bryant/Calvin Johnson kind of WR. Nor should that be the expectation of him. But he can be a very valuable player for us without getting near that. Give him a season or so and he will be.
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I'm well aware of Cruz's history and it's completely tangential to the discussion.
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I don't see that at all.
That said, I'd nut if he had that level of production...
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Why do you think that quickness is the end all be all of getting open? Chris is plenty quick.... Jerry Rice wasn't overly fast or quick and he's the best receiver to ever live... Route running > quickness. We have seen it a million times on both ends... We've seen thousands of freak guys like Marquise Goodwins, Darius Heyward Beys, pan out to be nothing. Yet we've seen below average speed and quickness guys like Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald turn in HOF careers. If Conley can't develop into a #1 it is going to be because he fails to learn the intricacies of position and NOT because of his lack of "quickness".
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He's played one preseason game and detoxing acts like he has any idea his potential. Laughable.
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Detox has him all figured out.
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There's a difference between quickness and timed speed. You clearly have the two confused.
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What Detox is saying is more likely to happen than Conley becoming a #1.
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Hell, DJ, his ****ing biggest supporter on this forum agrees that he lacks suddenness. What's laughable is the inability around here to question fan favorites.
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Pretty laughable, right guys?
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Last Friday night, all us dads were watching the game and this running back on the other team was killing us with his speed. He breaks one on the outside and is jamming down the sideline for like 60 yards when my son (corner back)closes on him from right behind him (not a good angle or something - just a straight up sprint, one behind the other) and trips him at the 4 yardline. Kid had about a 7 yard head start and we had all just been sitting around talking about how crazy fast this kid was. No one really talks about my kid like that. He's a corner back so he's fast, but people don't really consider him "wow" fast. He has deceptive speed. Looks like he's just not putting a lot of effort into it, but he can move. Maybe Conley is like that?
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I guess a guy who has a 45 inch vertical jump doesn't have any explosion or quickness. That was best at the combine for WRs and he also was best at the broad jump a 135 inches. He may or may not turn in to what we want but he has the tools to get it done.
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Robert Smith was like that.
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