Football Sports Illustrated quarterback rankings - Page 5

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 07-06-2015, 01:06 AM

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/07/03/nfl-quarterback-rankings/

Discuss.

BigChiefFan · 07-06-2015, 12:18 PM

My List...
1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3.Peyton Manning
4. Ben Roethlisberger
5. Drew Brees
6. Andrew Luck
7. Tony Romo
8. Russell Wilson
9. Matt Ryan
10. Joe Flacco
11. Philip Rivers
12. Eli Manning
13.Cam Newton
14. Matt Stafford
15. Ryan Tannehill
16. Alex Smith
17. Andy Dalton
18. Carson Palmer
19. Colin Kaepernick
20. Teddy Bridgewater
21. Sam Bradford
22. Nick Foles
23. Derek Carr
24. Jay Cutler
25. Blake Bortles
26. Jamesis Winston
27. Geno Smith
28. Robert Griffith 111
29. Brian Hoyer
30. Josh McCown
31. Matt Cassel
32. Marcus Mariota

Chiefshrink · 07-06-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Luck will soon be ranked #1...

I agree with just talent alone but he will have to win some SBs though.

Tombstone RJ · 07-06-2015, 01:15 PM

Here's mine:

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Andrew Luck
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Peyton Manning
6. Philip Rivers
7. Tony Romo
8. Matt Ryan
9. Russell Wilson
10. Matt Stafford
11. Ben Roethlisberger
12. Joe Flacco
13. Cam Newton
14. Eli Manning
15. Andy Dalton
16. Ryan Tannehill
17. Carson Palmer
18. Alex Smith
19. Teddy Bridgewater
20. Nick Foles
21. Sam Bradford
22. Colin Kaepernick
23. Derek Carr
24. Jay Cutler
25. Blake Bortles
26. Jamesis Winston
27. Geno Smith
28. Robert Griffith 111
29. Brian Hoyer
30. Josh McCown
31. Matt Cassel
32. Marcus Mariota

Amnorix · 07-06-2015, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Here's mine:

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Andrew Luck
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Peyton Manning

Just so I understand it -- is this for 2015 season or if you were holding a draft now to build your team for the next X years?

If the former, I can't imagine Luck above Brady. If the latter, then I definitely agree, but I can't imagine how Brees/Manning are 4/5 on your list.

Tombstone RJ · 07-06-2015, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Just so I understand it -- is this for 2015 season or if you were holding a draft now to build your team for the next X years?

If the former, I can't imagine Luck above Brady. If the latter, then I definitely agree, but I can't imagine how Brees/Manning are 4/5 on your list.

Well Manning and Brees are 3 and 5 on another poster's list. Why don't you go ask him? :roll eyes:

Also, what the hell are you talking about "is this for 2015 season or if you were holding a draft now to build your team for the next X years?" Why does this only apply to my opinion and not errrbody else?

dls6501 · 07-06-2015, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

As for Smith at 18? Yeah, I'd move him up about 5 spots. Even if to accept at 18? That's a pretty complimentary spot, having played behind a bottom OL throwing to bottom 5 WRs.

Complimentary? That would mean he is a below average NFL starting quarterback.....something you some of us have been trying to get through your head since you followed him over to KC....which you argued until you were blue in the face.

Now its a compliment? LOL. Just comical.

PizzaDoughz · 07-06-2015, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Well Manning and Brees is 3 and 5 on another poster's list. Why don't you go ask him? :roll eyes:

Also, what the hell are you talking about "is this for 2015 season or if you were holding a draft now to build your team for the next X years?" Why does this only apply to my opinion and not errrbody else?

Because you're talking to a butthurt cheatriot homer, what do you expect?

dls6501 · 07-06-2015, 01:42 PM

Why I have a hard time with rankings in general, is because people try to rank QBs on what they have done rather than their skillset. When I try to compare QBs, I try to image all things equal. Who would I pick over who if similar circumstance?

The reason why I dont appreciate players like Alex Smith or Russell Wilson nearly as much as players like Tony Romo is because of what is asked out of each quarterback. If Tony Romo plays poorly, the Cowboys have absolutely no chance of winning the game. If Alex Smith or Russell Wilson play poorly, do the Seahawks or our chances of winning drastically go down? No, not really. Alex Smith and Russell Wilson have the luxury of protecting the ball at the expense of production. Most other QBs dont have that luxury....which is why you see more interceptions.

I dont think protecting the ball is some amazing skill....its something ANY serviceable NFL quarterback can do if he doesnt have to worry about anything other than that. I value production over protection. Russell Wilson is right where he should be, and Alex is too high.

ViperVisor · 07-06-2015, 02:20 PM

Carson Palmer?

The buzz and fantasy football hype based on a stretch of good play for the 1st time in 5 years.

The avg D Pts allowed he faced was 21st.

And Defense handed the AZ offense 13 Turnovers in that 6 game stretch, 3 D/ST TDs. KC got 13 ALL SEASON.

Hootie · 07-06-2015, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

My List...
1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3.Peyton Manning
4. Ben Roethlisberger
5. Drew Brees
6. Andrew Luck
7. Tony Romo
8. Russell Wilson
9. Matt Ryan
10. Joe Flacco
11. Philip Rivers
12. Eli Manning
13.Cam Newton
14. Matt Stafford
15. Ryan Tannehill
16. Alex Smith
17. Andy Dalton
18. Carson Palmer
19. Colin Kaepernick
20. Teddy Bridgewater
21. Sam Bradford
22. Nick Foles
23. Derek Carr
24. Jay Cutler
25. Blake Bortles
26. Jamesis Winston
27. Geno Smith
28. Robert Griffith 111
29. Brian Hoyer
30. Josh McCown
31. Matt Cassel
32. Marcus Mariota

This isn't half bad

**Rausch** · 07-06-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Looks about right to me, but I'm sure multiple people will freak out about Smith being ranked behind Cutler, Tannehill, Newton and Stafford. Oh, and Romo.

He should be ranked behind all of them...

rico · 07-06-2015, 03:47 PM

You know, it is nice seeing Matt Cassel listed where he belongs...the lowest ranked projected starting QB in the league. However, it sure would have been nice seeing him acknowledged for what he was, is and always will be when the Chiefs had him. I used to become physically ill when I'd see him ranked by these "lithpmakers" anywhere from top 10 (after that flukey 2010 season) to nothing lower than like...18-20... Ugh.

ThaVirus · 07-06-2015, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

My List...

1. Tom Brady

2. Aaron Rodgers

3.Peyton Manning

4. Ben Roethlisberger

5. Drew Brees

6. Andrew Luck

7. Tony Romo

8. Russell Wilson

9. Matt Ryan

10. Joe Flacco

11. Philip Rivers

12. Eli Manning

13.Cam Newton

14. Matt Stafford

15. Ryan Tannehill

16. Alex Smith

17. Andy Dalton

18. Carson Palmer

19. Colin Kaepernick

20. Teddy Bridgewater

21. Sam Bradford

22. Nick Foles

23. Derek Carr

24. Jay Cutler

25. Blake Bortles

26. Jamesis Winston

27. Geno Smith

28. Robert Griffith 111

29. Brian Hoyer

30. Josh McCown

31. Matt Cassel

32. Marcus Mariota

That actually is a really ****ing good ranking. I'd only make a couple minor tweaks, nothing egregiously out of place IMO.

ThaVirus · 07-06-2015, 03:59 PM

I'd put Aaron Rodgers at #1 and drop the cheater Brady down to #2, in case the local Patriot d bags were wondering..

Sandy Vagina · 07-06-2015, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dls6501

Complimentary? That would mean he is a below average NFL starting quarterback.....something you some of us have been trying to get through your head since you followed him over to KC....which you argued until you were blue in the face.

Now its a compliment? LOL. Just comical.

I am saying that if Smith is ranked 18th playing behind a shit OL throwing to shit WRs, imagine what his rank might be if (or when) playing behind a respectable OL throwing to respectable WRs.

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dls6501 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $9960375	Why I have a hard time with rankings in general, is because people try to rank QBs on what they have done rather than their skillset. When I try to compare QBs, I try to image all things equal. Who would I pick over who if similar circumstance? The reason why I dont appreciate players like Alex Smith or Russell Wilson nearly as much as players like Tony Romo is because of what is asked out of each quarterback. If Tony Romo plays poorly, the Cowboys have absolutely no chance of winning the game. If Alex Smith or Russell Wilson play poorly, do the Seahawks or our chances of winning drastically go down? No, not really. Alex Smith and Russell Wilson have the luxury of protecting the ball at the expense of production. Most other QBs dont have that luxury....which is why you see more interceptions. I dont think protecting the ball is some amazing skill....its something ANY serviceable NFL quarterback can do if he doesnt have to worry about anything other than that. I value production over protection. Russell Wilson is right where he should be, and Alex is too high.
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