Chiefs Chiefs have received 4 compensatory pks - Page 5

Mr. Laz · 03-23-2015, 07:18 PM

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 1m1 minute ago
The #Chiefs have received 4 compensatory picks. 3rd (34-98), two 5ths (36-172 & 37-173) & one 6th (42-217)

Hootie · 03-24-2015, 10:27 AM

I don't think the Chiefs free agency was a disaster last year at all..

I don't think Dorsey or Reid wanted to make any sort of splash in free agency

I think they realized they weren't going to contend against Denver and that they were better suited building for 2015 and beyond

I can't fault them for having a plan and sticking to it. In fact, if we knock one out of the park in this draft we may very well end up with one of the top 5 or 6 most talented teams in the NFL

Mile High Mania · 03-24-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It is some absolute horse shit.

Basically, they gained Sanders, talib, Ward, Ware. The claim is that this haul did not justify the loss of decker, Phillips, rodgers-cromartie, mincey, Moreno, Beadles, and Woodyard. They lost more than they received but 4 picks? That is utter and complete bullshit. You shouldn't get that many picks if you spend that much money.

So, teams should be penalized for being competitive? (and you forgot they added Ware) I don't understand the method really behind the madness with this process, but Denver rarely gets comp picks.

Man, wait until next year after losing what they lost this off-season.

**The Franchise** · 03-24-2015, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

So, teams should be penalized for being competitive? I don't understand the method really behind the madness with this process, but Denver rarely gets comp picks.

Man, wait until next year after losing what they lost this off-season.

I'm thinking at least a 3rd and a 4th....if not two 3rds for Franklin and Thomas.

Hootie · 03-24-2015, 10:32 AM

well the good thing about having Peyton Manning at QB is he tends to make EVERYONE around him better ... so when the Broncos lose a WR or an OL or a pass rushing specialist who is only good when his team has a lead ... it's going to lead to inflated free agency contracts for overrated players which, in turn, will lead to a lot of comp picks

**Easy 6** · 03-24-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

well the good thing about having Peyton Manning at QB is he tends to make EVERYONE around him better ... so when the Broncos lose a WR or an OL or a pass rushing specialist who is only good when his team has a lead ... it's going to lead to inflated free agency contracts for overrated players which, in turn, will lead to a lot of comp picks

By jove, I think you've nailed it.

Mile High Mania · 03-24-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

I'm thinking at least a 3rd and a 4th....if not two 3rds for Franklin and Thomas.

Thomas, Franklin, Knighton (Pot Roast), Moore, Welker, Tamme, Unrein, Irving... several others. I'd say those losses are more impressive than what they lost last year.

Hootie · 03-24-2015, 10:35 AM

well if Welker or Tamme even factor into any of the comp pick formulas ... that ****ing system needs fixed

Mile High Mania · 03-24-2015, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

well if Welker or Tamme even factor into any of the comp pick formulas ... that ****ing system needs fixed

Not sure what you're suggesting. Looks like they look at the total losses, some of the names from last year were players that I'd look at as no big deal.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-24-2015, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

So, teams should be penalized for being competitive? I don't understand the method really behind the madness with this process, but Denver rarely gets comp picks.

Man, wait until next year after losing what they lost this off-season.

For comp picks, yes. The point of comp picks is to reward teams who took a big hit in free agency. They specifically have rules in place that factor in total games started and compensation. Pretty simple... If you lose a lot, but spend a lot to replace what you lost, then your team is not that much worse off and therefore does not need compensation.

The Chiefs lost several starters and replaced them with Joe mays and vance walker, two low contract guys who barely played. That is what comp picks are supposed to be made for.

Hootie · 03-24-2015, 10:40 AM

I don't really care about Denver getting those 2 garbage 7ths ... that's basically like getting your first choice at a UDFA

I can't believe they got a 4th, though. Hell. Sanders >>> Decker

Sanders and Talib alone were better than anything else they "lost."

Hootie · 03-24-2015, 10:40 AM

were Denver fans even expecting comp picks?

chiefzilla1501 · 03-24-2015, 10:44 AM

Sanders neutralizes loss of decker
Talib replaces rodgers-cromartie
Tj ward replaces woodyard

So the broncos basically got 4 decent comp picks for losing Beadles, Moreno (who barely played), and ayers and Phillips who were pretty much useless role players. They got way too much.

**The Franchise** · 03-24-2015, 10:48 AM

Decker - 5 years $36 million
Sanders - 3 years $18 million

Mile High Mania · 03-24-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

For comp picks, yes. The point of comp picks is to reward teams who took a big hit in free agency. They specifically have rules in place that factor in total games started and compensation. Pretty simple... If you lose a lot, but spend a lot to replace what you lost, then your team is not that much worse off and therefore does not need compensation.

The Chiefs lost several starters and replaced them with Joe mays and vance walker, two low contract guys who barely played. That is what comp picks are supposed to be made for.

So, the system should reward teams that lose quality and do a poor job of replacing that quality. Doesn't make sense really.

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I don't really care about Denver getting those 2 garbage 7ths ... that's basically like getting your first choice at a UDFA

I can't believe they got a 4th, though. Hell. Sanders >>> Decker

Sanders and Talib alone were better than anything else they "lost."

I would agree.

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

were Denver fans even expecting comp picks?

Honestly, I've never paid much attention to it... Denver hasn't received many comp picks in drafts. I think 4 total or something in the last half dozen or more years?

Mr. Laz · 03-24-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Billay

Nobody was being a drama queen The Chiefs free agency last year was a disaster. It no doubt cost them a post season appearance.

this

a real guard and Wr and we make the playoffs last year

but hey, ct would rather have some comp picks

btw the only thing these comp picks have done for us so far is jack and squat

we actually have to draft GOOD players before they mean shit

03-23-2015, 07:18 PM
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03-24-2015, 10:27 AM	#61
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I don't think the Chiefs free agency was a disaster last year at all.. I don't think Dorsey or Reid wanted to make any sort of splash in free agency I think they realized they weren't going to contend against Denver and that they were better suited building for 2015 and beyond I can't fault them for having a plan and sticking to it. In fact, if we knock one out of the park in this draft we may very well end up with one of the top 5 or 6 most talented teams in the NFL
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03-24-2015, 10:32 AM	#64
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well the good thing about having Peyton Manning at QB is he tends to make EVERYONE around him better ... so when the Broncos lose a WR or an OL or a pass rushing specialist who is only good when his team has a lead ... it's going to lead to inflated free agency contracts for overrated players which, in turn, will lead to a lot of comp picks
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03-24-2015, 10:35 AM	#67
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well if Welker or Tamme even factor into any of the comp pick formulas ... that ****ing system needs fixed
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03-24-2015, 10:40 AM	#70
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I don't really care about Denver getting those 2 garbage 7ths ... that's basically like getting your first choice at a UDFA I can't believe they got a 4th, though. Hell. Sanders >>> Decker Sanders and Talib alone were better than anything else they "lost."
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03-24-2015, 10:44 AM	#72
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1824497	Sanders neutralizes loss of decker Talib replaces rodgers-cromartie Tj ward replaces woodyard So the broncos basically got 4 decent comp picks for losing Beadles, Moreno (who barely played), and ayers and Phillips who were pretty much useless role players. They got way too much.
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03-24-2015, 10:48 AM	#73
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