Beginning Of The End For Goodell?

[SeeingRed]

Cancels engagement tonight in wake of breaking Ray Rice scandal. http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/10/rog...rry-richardson

[Tombstone RJ]

Roger Goodell needs to go away... he needs to resign or be fired. He's a joke.

[Mr. Laz]

Ray Rice is loving all the Goodell stuff, he gets to skate and play the victim of the mean commissioner.

Media is so full of shit. They don't give a rat's ass about domestic violence, they just want ratings. We have entire media outlets designed to spin and cover up things for one side of the politic aisle or another. Fox for the GOP, MSN for the Dems ... they spin,cover and generally lie about all sort of shit each day and nobody cares. Real life shit that is costing people their health, their livelihoods in terrible ways.

Dan Patrick is crying like a bitch all day about the indignity of it all and yet he will have Ray Rice on tomorrow if he could. He has Warren Moon on several times, which benefits a wife beater.

All day, every day the media helps athletes and entertainers that do ****ed up shit and nobody cares.

You muther****ers would cheer for a baby killer this sunday if he could score a touchdown and win the game for us against the Broncos.


let the mobbing and burning pitchforks continue ........

/rant over

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Ray Rice is loving all the Goodell stuff, he gets to skate and play the victim of the mean commissioner.

Media is so full of shit. They don't give a rat's ass about domestic violence, they just want ratings. We have entire media outlets designed to spin and cover up things for one side of the politic aisle or another. Fox for the GOP, MSN for the Dems ... they spin,cover and generally lie about all sort of shit each day and nobody cares. Real life shit that is costing people their health, their livelihoods in terrible ways.

Dan Patrick is crying like a bitch all day about the indignity of it all and yet he will have Ray Rice on tomorrow if he could. He has Warren Moon on several times, which benefits a wife beater.

All day, every day the media helps athletes and entertainers that do ****ed up shit and nobody cares.

You muther****ers would cheer for a baby killer this sunday if he could score a touchdown and win the game for us against the Broncos.


let the mobbing and burning pitchforks continue ........

/rant over

[Donger]

Sorry if already posted:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/s...us-misconduct/

Though NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell continues to have the solid support of many of the league’s 32 owners, the group is be prepared to act against Goodell, potentially considering his dismissal, if the investigation by former FBI director Robert S. Mueller III concludes that Goodell was guilty of willful and egregious misconduct in the handling of the Ray Rice case, several people familiar with owners’ views said Thursday.

“He’s been a very good commissioner and he’s done great things for the league,” a high-ranking executive with one NFL team said. “The presumption is that he’s telling the truth and the investigation will demonstrate that. We’ll go by the report [generated by Mueller’s investigation]. If the report says something different, we’ll take the appropriate action.”

That executive and others spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the investigation.

An official with another NFL team who had been briefed on the views of the owner of his franchise said of that owner: “He supports the commissioner.” Asked what it would take for that owner’s support of Goodell to be withdrawn, the official said: “If the investigation concludes that the commissioner saw more and knew more than he has said, and he was not truthful about that to the clubs, things would change.”

A top executive with a third franchise who had spoken to his team’s owner expressed similar sentiments, saying Goodell’s job would be at risk only if it is found that he personally orchestrated a cover-up.

“Certainly he would be [held] accountable for intentionally misleading people and taking actions to cover his tracks,” that executive said. “Certainly that would be grounds for anything from a reprimand to termination. [But] it would take a lot. No one expects it to come to that.”

According to that executive, owners would have little choice but to consider firing Goodell if Mueller’s report concludes that Goodell acted improperly in a significant way.

“The integrity of the league would have to be protected at a certain point,” the executive said, relating what he called the thoughts of that team’s owner. “The trust of the public would have to be maintained. But, again, that’s not the expectation here.”

Goodell is thought to have the strong support, several people within the league said, of a group of powerful and influential owners that includes the New England Patriots’ Robert Kraft and the New York Giants’ John Mara. Kraft defended Goodell during an appearance on CBS earlier this week. Mara issued a written statement Wednesday saying it was “misguided” to think Goodell’s job was in jeopardy.

Later Wednesday, the league announced that Mara and Art Rooney II, the president of the Pittsburgh Steelers, would oversee the investigation conducted by Mueller, now a Washington-based partner in the law firm WilmerHale.

The league’s announcement of the investigation came hours after the Associated Press quoted an anonymous law enforcement official as saying he’d sent a video of the Rice incident to the NFL months ago. The AP reported that the official provided a voice mail from a female with a phone number in the NFL’s offices acknowledging receiving the video in April.

The video, released publicly Monday by TMZ, shows Rice striking Janay Palmer, then his fiancée and now his wife, inside a hotel elevator in Atlantic City in February. Goodell and the league have said they did not see that video until Monday. They have said the NFL’s efforts to obtain the video from law enforcement were rebuffed.

Goodell made those points in a memo to NFL teams this week. An executive with one team said Thursday it would be “a problem” if Goodell is found to have lied in that memo.

Several executives with NFL teams expressed the view Thursday that the media and others are focusing wrongly on the potential missteps by Goodell rather than on the misconduct of Rice.

The Baltimore Ravens released Rice on Monday and the NFL suspended him indefinitely. The league initially suspended Rice for two games, a penalty which Goodell later called a mistake.

Despite calls for him to step down by National Organization for Women and others, Goodell has remained adamant that he did nothing untoward and that he will not resign, according to people familiar with his thinking. One of those people said Wednesday night, following the AP report, that Goodell “never” will resign and there’s “no reason to.” Goodell told CBS this week he did not believe his job was on the line.

[Kaepernick]

I can already tell you the outcome of Mueller's investigation.

It will be something like this:

"After exhaustive investigation, it is concluded that neither the NFL Commissioner, nor any owner, nor any manager nor coach had foreknowledge of the specific details of the events that took place in the elevator prior to it being made public. The allegations that unnamed NFL persons received a copy of the elevator surveillance video could not be substantiated. Further, the Commissioner sought to make the best decision possible with the available information at his disposal at the time. This investigation is closed with the recommendation that all parties within the NFL organization be held harmless."

[hometeam]

If they dismiss him It will be with a nice big fat severance package and he wont lose a wink of sleep.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

He's been a very shitty commissioner, and can kiss my ass.

[FloridaMan88]

I haven't been following this case that closely, but why isn't there more heat being applied to the prosecutor who allowed Rice to enter a pre-trial intervention program, rather than face jail time?

Shouldn't the prosecutor's office have had access to this complete video as well?

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by 505 Chief

He's been a very shitty commissioner, and can kiss my ass.

Even if hes gone the pussification will continue. The PC police in this country right now are insane,not to mention the owners will continue to create rules which protect dollars and not the game.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I haven't been following this case that closely, but why isn't there more heat being applied to the prosecutor who allowed Rice to enter a pre-trial intervention program, rather than face jail time?

Shouldn't the prosecutor's office have had access to this complete video as well?

Because the fiance/wife did not want to press charges. Think about it, would you want to lose your source of millions of dollars in income? I'm pretty sure she wasn't the one raking in the cash.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I haven't been following this case that closely, but why isn't there more heat being applied to the prosecutor who allowed Rice to enter a pre-trial intervention program, rather than face jail time?

Shouldn't the prosecutor's office have had access to this complete video as well?

In atlantic city, any other person would get the same treatment. They have PTI for first time offenders so they don't have to deal with the thousands of casino drunks every year that get stupid and commit assaults.

Why would it be the prosecutors job to release evidence to the media?

[OldSchool]

I suspect that's why Goodell didn't initially give Rice a harsher punishment as well. Rice wasn't prosecuted for it and they probably took the wishes of the wife into account, thinking that to ban Rice from the league would hurt her even more and were willing to give Rice another shot because of that.

However, once TMZ leaked everything, Goodell and the League had to backtrack to save their own asses. Their contingency plan was the whole "we didn't see anything" defense.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by hometeam

Even if hes gone the pussification will continue. The PC police in this country right now are insane,not to mention the owners will continue to create rules which protect dollars and not the game.

Sigh.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I haven't been following this case that closely, but why isn't there more heat being applied to the prosecutor who allowed Rice to enter a pre-trial intervention program, rather than face jail time?

Shouldn't the prosecutor's office have had access to this complete video as well?

A conviction for a first time aggravated assault case is almost always probation. The prosecutor was looking at PTI and put the case to bed, or a trial where the wife didn't want to be in the public eye and have exactly what is happening now made public, and Ray end up with probation.

He wasn't getting jail time in either case. You also have to remember she made contact with him first and spit on him. She too is "guilty" of assault.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Ray Rice is loving all the Goodell stuff, he gets to skate and play the victim of the mean commissioner.

How exactly did Ray Rice get to "skate"? His reputation is tarnished forever, we've all seen the video ad nauseum, and he's been punished twice now for beating his wife. There's no more new information to report on him.

The focus has shifted to Goodell because unlike with Rice, new facts have come out that demonstrate a concerted attempt by the league to cover the incident up... and as the old saying goes, "the cover-up is always worse than the crime."

There's enough reasons to dislike both Rice and the media without having to invent things to blame them for.