Chiefs HUGE gap with Houston - Page 5

**chiefforlife** · 08-05-2014, 04:15 PM

“Huge” gap exists between Chiefs, Justin Houston
Posted by Mike Florio on August 5, 2014, 4:28 PM EDT
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Linebacker Justin Houston was sufficiently upset with the lack of a new contract to skip the offseason program. But he showed up for training camp, realizing that the best way to get paid is to complete the final year of his rookie deal.

The Chiefs rewarded Houston for honoring his current obligations by offering a new contract. Houston didn’t like it. Per a league source, a “huge” gap current exists between the team’s offer and Houston’s demands.

It’s unclear whether that gap will be closed before the season ends and the Chiefs have to decide whether to use the franchise tag. If they don’t work out new deals with Houston and Alex Smith, they’ll have to choose between them. Maybe the Chiefs will choose neither.

The team’s ultimate position on Houston will depend on the development of rookie Dee Ford. Currently, Ford is listed as the second-string right outside linebacker, behind Tamba Hali.
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OldSchool · 08-05-2014, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

NOBODY had games where they piled up sacks against Willie Roaf, Orlando Pace, etc. the best OT's in the game.

There aren't OTs of that level in the game today, especially not RTs. I'm talking about him being able to beat even just the average OTs in this league.

Chief Roundup · 08-05-2014, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

There aren't OTs of that level in the game today, especially not RTs. I'm talking about him being able to beat even just the average OTs in this league.

Houston doesn't line up, by position, on the right tackle. He lines up on the left tackle.
Like I said he does still have some proving to do but to say that he hasn't beat some of the better tackles in the league is not accurate either.

tecumseh · 08-05-2014, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Of course there's a huge gap. There's no rush to get him signed. He's here the next two seasons minimum. They can keep making low offers and see if he'll take one of them.

This. That. And the other, MF.

OldSchool · 08-05-2014, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Houston doesn't line up, by position, on the right tackle. He lines up on the left tackle.
Like I said he does still have some proving to do but to say that he hasn't beat some of the better tackles in the league is not accurate either.

Dude, Houston is the LOLB, Hali is the ROLB. Hali is almost always lined up against the LT while Houston gets the much easier assignment vs the RT.

ghak99 · 08-05-2014, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Houston doesn't line up, by position, on the right tackle. He lines up on the left tackle.

Have you been drinking?

DTLB58 · 08-06-2014, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

With Tamba at the tail end of his career, Houston is by far the most important player to the organization's future. He needs to be the priority.

Couldn't agree more. Houston and Dee Ford. Not Dee Ford and Tamba.

DTLB58 · 08-06-2014, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We have to have a shit-ton of pass rushers - our defensive scheme is complete ass without them.

Yep. If you watch today's T.C. Video clip on the website with Reid he even says with the 3-4 you need a lot of pass rushers and we got them.

With this scheme and as young as he is, they would be crazy to let him go and have a division rival grab him in FA. All 3 would be tripping over each Other to sign him.

DTLB58 · 08-06-2014, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by John Dope

I hope we can get Bowe off the books next year. That would really help. He's the 5th highest paid receiver and I think most of his guaranteed money is gone after this year.

If that was the case, I think they would have used their 1st rd pick this year on a WR to replace Bowe but instead they used it on Ford to replace Hali/contract.

Clark said the other day they will get things done in the next 6 months when the time is right. Either they want to see how Alex is going to play another year under Reid or they just don't have the $ right now. But heck, to get Houston for $1.4 and Your Playoff QB for $7.5....Besides JC Hunts have always been patient to a fault.

DTLB58 · 08-06-2014, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

I believe Tamba may be willing to restructure to stay here, he's that kinda guy IMO... he rightfully see's himself as an elder statesman of this defense along with DJ and has a loyal streak in him.

When was the last time he complained about playing in Kansas City?

After listening to his radio interview the other day I was wondering the same thing. That would be nice.

DTLB58 · 08-06-2014, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Yeah, but what separates the Elite pass rushers from those who are just good is the fact that they can do it against the best OTs in the business and not just scrubs and rookies in their first career games. I have yet to see Houston do anything more than just beat on scrubs and rookie OTs.

Give him time. I just read one of the HOF articles on Strahan on how he really didn't hit his stride till his 3-4 season. Not every guy gets 20 sacks his second season. (DT)

And it's not only his sack game. He does a lot against the run and he can fall back and defend the pass when asked better than Hali has eve just because of body size and better athleticism. He is probably the most important defense player right now because of the scheme.

Fritz88 · 08-06-2014, 04:51 AM

I would not be surprised if they let him walk next year.
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**Rausch** · 08-06-2014, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I would not be surprised if they let him walk next year.
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I have a bet with my friend on this. I think he will as well.

Houston is actually worth franchise tag money so we'll Tag Smith and let Houston walk...

**Dave Lane** · 08-06-2014, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

With Tamba at the tail end of his career, Houston is by far the most important player to the organization's future. He needs to be the priority.

No question. I think making Alex play with the tag is the right move.

**Dave Lane** · 08-06-2014, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I have a bet with my friend on this. I think he will as well.

Houston is actually worth franchise tag money so we'll Tag Smith and let Houston walk...

FML the sad thing is I believe you.

-King- · 08-06-2014, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I have a bet with my friend on this. I think he will as well.

Houston is actually worth franchise tag money so we'll Tag Smith and let Houston walk...

That assumes we can't sign either one of them to a deal. That has NO chance of happening.
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