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Old 03-27-2013, 08:05 AM  
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Chiefs reportedly 'fascinated' by Geno Smith
The Kansas City Chiefs are "fascinated" by West Virginia Mountaineers quarterback Geno Smith, according to Ian Rapoport.

Smith was terrific at his pro day and solidified his status as a top 10 pick last week, with most experts believing he will be one of the first selections off the board at the 2013 NFL Draft. Our own Dan Kadar has Smith heading to the Jacksonville Jaguars at No. 2 overall in SB Nation's latest mock draft.

Joel Thorman of Arrowhead Pride calls the move a smokescreen and writes, "Is this the worst smokescreen in draft history? Honestly, it might be."

More: Chiefs offseason coverage at Arrowhead Pride
The Chiefs just traded one second-round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft and a conditional third-round choice that could become a second in next year's draft as well for quarterback Alex Smith. That's a high price to pay for the team to also consider such a large draft investment in a rookie like Geno Smith.

Smith threw for 98 touchdowns and 21 interceptions in his four-year career at West Virginia.


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Old 03-27-2013, 09:29 AM   #61
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smokescreen is probably not the right term


'feigning interest' to raise interest/value for Geno Smith would probably be better verbiage.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:30 AM   #62
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Smokescreen.

This FO is terrible at showing their hand.

Trying to 'trade' Cassel when it was known he would be released...

Acting like you are interested in Geno after you trade for Alex Smith and give Chase a healthy backup QB contract...

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Old 03-27-2013, 09:30 AM   #63
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I get that, but what part of it is going to make another NFL team trade up, the chiefs "evaluation" of Geno?

You mean to tell me that Arizona or Buffalo thought Geno was OK, but now that KC is fascinated by him, he is great, and worthy of trading up for? That doesn't make sense.

Either other teams think he is worthy of a number one pick, or they don't. KC being fascinated by him isn't going to change that. The smokescreen argument doesn't hold water when you are picking number one.
I suppose it could be that if Arizona or Buffalo wanted Geno, they might think they only have to jump ahead of Oakland to get him, but if it looks like the Chiefs have an interest but aren't committed to Geno completely, they might be able to insure they get him by paying us enough to make up our mind. But for the most part, I agree with you.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:31 AM   #65
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smokescreen is probably not the right term


'feigning interest' to raise interest/value for Geno Smith would probably be better verbiage.
I still don't see how showing interest when you hold your own destiny makes any sense.

If I'm Buffalo's GM, and I really want Geno, or I don't, I'm not changing my evaluation of him because of anything the team at number one says. any other draft spot, yes. But, not the team sitting at one.
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I still don't see how showing interest when you hold your own destiny makes any sense.

If I'm Buffalo's GM, and I really want Geno, or I don't, I'm not changing my evaluation of him because of anything the team at number one says. any other draft spot, yes. But, not the team sitting at one.
It's not about changing Buffalo's evaluation. It's making them believe that he's a viable option for the #1 draft pick. Now Buffalo will have to call us and make an offer that we value more than just drafting Geno ourselves.
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I still don't see how showing interest when you hold your own destiny makes any sense.

If I'm Buffalo's GM, and I really want Geno, or I don't, I'm not changing my evaluation of him because of anything the team at number one says. any other draft spot, yes. But, not the team sitting at one.
i'm pretty sure that the chef's entire goal is to nab moar picks. that is all.
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It's not about changing Buffalo's evaluation. It's making them believe that he's a viable option for the #1 draft pick. Now Buffalo will have to call us and make an offer that we value more than just drafting Geno ourselves.
I get this angle, but I still think teams know at this point whether or not they would give up the farm for Geno. I think if the Chiefs don't take him, that is when the smokescreens start coming into play, like the ones Philly, Oakland etc. have been putting out there.
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I get this angle, but I still think teams know at this point whether or not they would give up the farm for Geno. I think if the Chiefs don't take him, that is when the smokescreens start coming into play, like the ones Philly, Oakland etc. have been putting out there.
Maybe Buffalo is willing to give up the farm.....but they've been low balling us before. Now we show interest in Geno and tell Buffalo that we're just going to draft him instead of taking their offer. They can now either up their offer or stick at their original offer.
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Smokescreen.

This FO is terrible at showing their hand.

Trying to 'trade' Cassel when it was known he would be released...

Acting like you are interested in Geno after you trade for Alex Smith and give Chase a healthy backup QB contract...

... :Palm on Face"
I like how you always say (Ive seen you post it multiple times) "Relax guys, Nobody really knows what the front office is thinking. Its obviously just a smokescreen" Well, how do you know what the front office is thinking?
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I don't get the idea of a smokescreen when we can pick whomever we choose. If the Chiefs think he's great, they will take him. Plain and simple. If they say he's great, but then don't intend to take him, do other teams really think he's great just because the chiefs said so? I don't think so. It makes no sense.

The smokescreen angle only makes sense if you are trying to get a player and don't want anyone to know who it is so that nobody right behind you that also wants the same player, jumps ahead of you.

Since we can take whoever we want, this play is pointless.
You make a point to show that you are seriously considering him as hyojr pick in order to get teams that are seriously interested to make offers to move into your spot
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