Junior Seau dead, probable suicide

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Guess he must have put too much emphasis in his identity in being a football player. Probably not the first time he tried to off himself, as he drove off a cliff in 2010 but claimed he fell asleep behind the wheel. What kind of curse is there in the '94 Chargers?

There is starting to be more and more evidence that constant small trauma to the brain is cumulative and can create pretty significant problems at a relatively young age. I've read that it can lead to depression, so it's possible that is the case here.

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by Frosty

There is starting to be more and more evidence that constant small trauma to the brain is cumulative and can create pretty significant problems at a relatively young age. I've read that it can lead to depression, so it's possible that is the case here.

The NFL is bracing itself for a multi-billion dollar class action that could cripple the sport.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Literature

The NFL is bracing itself for a multi-billion dollar class action that could cripple the sport.

Yep. And it is sheer lunacy. There is implied consent there that should relieve the NFL of any punitive liability.

[tooge]

People that commit suicide always piss me off. So freakin selfish. I feel for his kids and other family members left behind. I always hated but respected him when he was a charger. Having said that, I guess this is the last time he'll be droppin the BOOM on someone

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by tooge

People that commit suicide always piss me off. So freakin selfish.

It is hard to understand severe depression if you haven't suffered from it yourself. Sorry you can't feel empathy. People like you piss me off.

Originally Posted by splatbass

It is hard to understand severe depression if you haven't suffered from it yourself. Sorry you can't feel empathy. People like you piss me off.

Hahahahaha - we'll soon have so many crutches for people in our society that nobody will need to take any personal responsibility at all. Kid is high energy - must be ADHD... He was raised without a father, give him a pass because he has 5 kids with 4 different mothers. He's depressed so he offed himself, it's okay because he was depressed though. I don't care what ailment you have. If the guy toting around 80 lbs of testicle to use as a chair at any moment hasn't put a bullet in his skull then there isn't an excuse large enough.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Hahahahaha - we'll soon have so many crutches for people in our society that nobody will need to take any personal responsibility at all. Kid is high energy - must be ADHD... He was raised without a father, give him a pass because he has 5 kids with 4 different mothers. He's depressed so he offed himself, it's okay because he was depressed though. I don't care what ailment you have. If the guy toting around 80 lbs of testicle to use as a chair at any moment hasn't put a bullet in his skull then there isn't an excuse large enough.

Fail=Strong on this.

Originally Posted by UCF Knight

Fail=Strong on this.

Please don't hurt my feelings. I'm feeling very vulnerable right now.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Hahahahaha - we'll soon have so many crutches for people in our society that nobody will need to take any personal responsibility at all. Kid is high energy - must be ADHD... He was raised without a father, give him a pass because he has 5 kids with 4 different mothers. He's depressed so he offed himself, it's okay because he was depressed though. I don't care what ailment you have. If the guy toting around 80 lbs of testicle to use as a chair at any moment hasn't put a bullet in his skull then there isn't an excuse large enough.

Hi. This post is dumb as hell. Well, cya

[niblet]

Originally Posted by splatbass

It is hard to understand severe depression if you haven't suffered from it yourself. Sorry you can't feel empathy. People like you piss me off.

I feel empathy for Seau's family and close friends, whose lives are in a bad way right now because of what he did. In light of that, I feel very little for Seau himself.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by niblet

I feel empathy for Seau's family and close friends, whose lives are in a bad way right now because of what he did. In light of that, I feel very little for Seau himself.

Whatever was bothering him enough to make such a decision is very hard for me to understand, it always is for me with any celeb... i've been through a really deep ditch or two & always wondered if it was the answer, but in the end its just a foreign concept to me, as stupid as i can be in life, i will ALWAYS have something telling me i can get past it & be happy again.

And i'm just a joe... Seau wasnt going to be bereft any business opportunities or great life with the nationwide support structure there for him,, whatever his financial difficulties may have been couldnt be THAT bad, then of course the family angle... leaving them like that... put a gun to your heart & pull the trigger, such a crazy thought.

But do i feel empathy & sadness for him, definitely.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by splatbass

It is hard to understand severe depression if you haven't suffered from it yourself. Sorry you can't feel empathy. People like you piss me off.

Seriously. Talk about selfish, how about refusing to try to understand the situation facing someone who was in enough distress to end their own life.

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Seriously. Talk about selfish, how about refusing to try to understand the situation facing someone who was in enough distress to end their own life.

What's to understand? They're dead. Gone. It's all over. By their own hand. They did it to themselves. Why torture the living with questions and agony? What if I had been a better son or daughter? Why didn't I get better grades? Why didn't I just get a paper route so I could have helped with bills? What if had been nicer to him? What if I'm suicidal too? Why didn't I tell him I loved him more often? That's what I want to understand. Why would any person ever kill themselves for any reason knowing their family is left with all the turmoil?

[BryanBusby]

It's amusing seeing the people that thought he was able to use logical thinking when this happened.

Mental illnesses are serious shit.

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by Phobia

What's to understand? They're dead. Gone. It's all over. By their own hand. They did it to themselves. Why torture the living with questions and agony? What if I had been a better son or daughter? Why didn't I get better grades? Why didn't I just get a paper route so I could have helped with bills? What if had been nicer to him? What if I'm suicidal too? Why didn't I tell him I loved him more often? That's what I want to understand. Why would any person ever kill themselves for any reason knowing their family is left with all the turmoil?

Those are some of the consequences of suicide, and they're ****ing horrible. Know what else is horrible? Lots of random, awful, unfortunate shit that happens every day. That doesn't mean blame is anything other than an instinctive defense mechanism for having some way of dealing with shocking, tragic events.

Blaming a suicidally depressed person for the state of their brain is as stupid as blaming someone for their appendix bursting.

To clarify: This is not to "defend" suicide in any way, because I've had a friend leave a suicide note and disappear without word until the next day (thankfully, she was stopped by people at her school and is doing a lot better these days). It was one of the worst days of my life. I know lots and lots and lots of people who have had to fight depression and suicidality. Suicide is a horrifying thing and isn't a viable solution to pretty much anything short of terminal illness, but rational thoughts are not what lead people to it.

Death is not appealing to suicidal people, and the fear of hurting others is probably the main thing standing between a lot of suicidal people and the act itself. But sometimes your outlook gets so bad that it looks like your only way to end the suffering, and it overrides every single thought and emotion you experience. And if you've never felt the panic and desperation and complete mental exhaustion that brings you to that point but still feel the need to comment on how others have dealt with that seemingly unbearable weight, kindly **** right off.