Here is what I think is going to happen.

[Coogs]

This is all about where I think the 4 QB's are going to go in the draft, with regards to what has been happening in free agency. Consensus is that none of the top 4 are ready to start day one, and will need a year of coaching up. It also seems to be the consensus that with some coaching, some of these 4 could wind up being very good. Which one is debatable, but that is entirely a different topic.

I'm starting to think the QB run is going to start at #11, and is going to be over by #17.

I think the Saints start the run at #11 with Brees just turning 38 in January.

I'm thinking the Patriots deals over the past few days sets them up perfectly to deal Garopollo to the Browns close to the draft for a haul of draft picks starting with #12. In turn, I see the Pats using this pick to get the guy to groom behind 40 year old Brady.

And the Cards have pick #13, with Palmer turning 37 and contemplating retirement a couple of months ago according to some. He could be a good bet to retire after this next season.

Philadelphia and #14, Indy and #15, and Baltimore at #16 are set at QB for the foreseeable future.

But Washington at #17 seems very much like a team that will need a QB very soon.

If we really have one/or two QB's that we have an interest in drafting for the future, Buffalo at #10 might have to be the target to get that guy.

Just my thoughts.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

So glad I have that clown Tiger on ignore. What an assclown

Way to contribute to the thread.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Maybe it would cost a lot. But if you wind up with the franchise QB, it could be cheap. We have 11 picks. You could move 5 of them and still have 6. Our 1st, 2nd, one 3rd, 4th, and one 5th puts us close on points.



Still leaves #10, a 3rd, a 5th, 2 6ths, and a 7th. Dorsey has done some good work with late picks.

No one is giving up 5 picks to get any of these QBs, certainly not Dorsey. Unless someone hires Ditka as GM.....


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[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Dumbass, simpleton, ChiefPlanet train of thought. The Cubs will never win a World Series either, right?

Well...as far as the Cubs go, it did take a really really ****ING REALLY long time for them to win one.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by splatbass

No one is giving up 5 picks to get any of these QBs, certainly not Dorsey. Unless someone hires Ditka as GM.....


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There are probably other ways, but they would require picks next year. We would still have 6 this way. I'm good however they do it if we go there.

I just don't think the good QB's get by pick 13.

Again, I'm just kind of thinking out loud on a slow Sunday.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Coogs

There are probably other ways, but they would require picks next year. We would still have 6 this way. I'm good however they do it if we go there.

I just don't think the good QB's get by pick 13.

Again, I'm just kind of thinking out loud on a slow Sunday.

I understand, but these guys are all projects. Spending 5 picks to get a project is just not going to happen.

[Tribal Warfare]

If Clark thinks Mahomes is the real deal Dorsey will do everything in his power to select him

[Lex Luthor]

Isn't next years QB class supposed to a lot better than this year's?

If that's the case, wouldn't we want a bunch of other teams to draft QBs in the first round this year instead of next year?

[LoneWolf]

There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

I agree with this. CP always overvalues QBs in the draft. Hell, this place nearly melted down when we didn't take Geno Smith at 1.1.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

i agree. i have made the argument that if the chiefs 'love' someone maybe move up a little. otherwise, and i have not a clue what next years draft class will be qb wise, they may wait.

i still think they take a 'potential' round one'r, in round two, but no later.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by splatbass

I agree with this. CP always overvalues QBs in the draft. Hell, this place nearly melted down when we didn't take Geno Smith at 1.1.

LOL

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I think the Chiefs will stay put in the first round and not draft a quarterback till second day. Then say they got their guy they wanted.

This is far more likely. None of these "top" QBs are worth moving up for. If one of these 4 falls to 27, and they like him enough to develop? fine. More likely, 3 of the 4 QBs are selected before 27... and CP melts down over the 4th one being passed over.

I think Andy's wacking it for a guy like Peterman on day 2.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

Again, I was just looking over the draft board and pondering what has happened/rumored to happen in free agency. Top flight, ready to start day one, QB talent goes 1-10 in the draft. I don't see that either with these guys. But they do talk 3 of these guys could be really good given a year or two to sit... like Favre and Rodgers did. Saints, Browns/Pats, and Cards have very near future needs at that position. I'm not saying they will go QB, but I won't be shocked either to see some combination of Trubiski, Watson, and Mahomes go right ther in those 3 picks.

They get by there, good chance outside of Washington at 17 they fall to us. I just don't think they get by there.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

There is no way in hell that 4 QBs are going to be drafted before pick #18. I seriously doubt that there are 4 QBs picked in the entire first round. Trubisky is a lock for the first round and I think Watson probably goes somewhere in the top 20. One of either Kizer or Mahomes is going to fall out of the first round. This QB group is pretty weak and there is too much other talent available in this draft for GMs to waste picks on quarterbacks that would be second or third rounders in other years. If Dorsey and Reid believe that either Kizer or Watson is worth the 27th pick, then I hope they draft either one of them if they are available, but trading up for any QB in this draft would just be stupid. There isn't a QB prospect in this years draft that would be rated as a first round pick in most other years. You don't trade away picks in one of the deepest drafts in the last decade to take a chance on a QB prospect who's value is inflated due to lack of top shelf talent at the position this year.

I agree with every word of this

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Mahomes to KC...get used to it

[RunKC]

I have a weird feeling if we draft a QB round 1 it will be Davis Webb, but honestly Mahommes and Webb are similar players. Spread offense, rocket arm, etc so I think most would be good with either.