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Sac's 2015 Chiefs Mock Draft - Two Weeks To Go!!

Signings:
Jeremy Maclin, WR
Da'rick Rogers, WR
Jason Avant, WR
Terrell Pryor, QB
Tyvon Branch, S
Derek Sherrod, OT
Jerell Worthy, DT
Hepron Fangupo, DT
Ben Grubbs, OG
Paul Fanaika, OG
Richard Gordon, TE
Kelcie McCray, S

Losses:
Rodney Hudson, C
Dwayne Bowe, WR
Donnie Avery, WR
AJ Jenkins, WR
Vance Walker, DT
Joe Mays, LB
Anthony Fasano, TE

Maclin is better for this system than Bowe. Grubbs is a very good guard and is a substantial upgrade over McGlynn/Linkenbach. Pryor, Rogers and Sherrod are superb pickups on the cheap that offer huge ceilings at positions that can be upgraded.

The main holes/question marks/depth issues on the team remain ROG, C, ILB, WR, DB, ROT. The team is facing contract issues at OLB, CB,

1. (18) La'el Collins, OL; LSU: 6’4”, 305 lb.

40: 5.12
10: 1.81
Bench: 21 reps
Vertical: 27”
Broad: 108”
3 Cone: 7.70 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.63 seconds
Arm: 33.25"
Hand: 10.5"

Collins is the most pro-ready offensive lineman in this draft. He's capable of playing four positons on the line and giving a team solid performance from Day One. Good athleticism, with very good feet and kick step and slide. Plays extremely nasty and gets to the second level effectively. Plays with very good functional power. Was the best OL at the senior bowl and combine.

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In an expression of ultimate humility that is rare for a football player worthy of being a top-five pick, Fowler admitted he was completely overwhelmed by Collins in the '13 meeting.

"My sophomore year, we went to Baton Rouge and played against LSU, and I'm not going to lie, I got my butt whooped," Fowler told mmqb.si.com. "That was one of my worst games just because of how I got tossed around. So I spent the whole last summer getting ready for La'el, I ain't going to lie to you. I knew I was going to run into some pretty decent tackles, but the main motivation was from him getting after me my sophomore year."





2. (47) Eric Rowe, CB; Utah: 6’1” 205 lb.

40: 4.45 seconds
Bench: 19 reps
Vertical: 39”
Broad: 125”
3 Cone: 6.70 seconds
20 Shuttle: 3.97 seconds
60 Shuttle: 11.48 seconds

Rowe might go as early as the mid-first round, but if he's on the board in the second, it's nearly a no-brainer for the Chiefs. He's a perfect fit for Sutton's defense and has every measurable and intangible that Dorsey looks for in a draft prospect. There is no cornerback in this draft that is more ready to step into Sutton's defense and produce than Rowe.

Former Freshman All-American and three time conference selection at safety moved over to cornerback for the 2014 season to fill in for the departed Keith McGill. Rowe is a very athletic and instinctive player who had an excellent combine. Strictly a press man coverage CB at the next level, but that would work out extremely well for the Chiefs as that’s what they use. Strong and aggressive, but a smart player. Excellent run defender and well coached in Utah’s pro style defense. Would fit into Sutton’s base defense on the edge as well as his hybrid dime packages extremely well.

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"Just watched tape on Utah S/CB Eric Rowe," tweeted NFL Network's Charles Davis prior to the combine. "If I’m Press/Man team I want him."

Rowe finished in the top five among safeties in the broad jump (10 feet, 5 inches; tied for third), bench press (19 reps; tied for fourth) and the 60-yard shuttle (11.48 seconds; fifth).

Rowe is seen as an NFL prospect at both the safety and cornerback positions — he played free safety his first three years at Utah before switching to cornerback his senior season.





3. (80) Tre McBride, WR; William & Mary: 6’0”, 210 lb.

40: 4.41
Bench: 16 reps
Vertical: 38”
Broad: 122”
3 Cone: 6.96 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.08 seconds
60 Shuttle: 11.70 seconds
Arms: 32.25"
Hands: 9"

IMO, the second best receiver in this draft for this team. Legitimate NFL size, speed and athleticism. Good route running and has excellent hands. Very good catch radius with the ability to go up and over defenders to get the ball. His high point ability is near equal to Devante Parker. Very smart with a good understanding of the game. (Was recruited by Harvard.) Big time skills shown at the Shrine Game week. An excellent fit for Reid’s offense.

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William & Mary WR Tre McBride really impressed me over the summer based on his junior tape and then he followed it up with a strong senior season and is continuing that momentum here in Indianapolis. He ran an unofficial 4.41 in the 40-yard dash and looked outstanding catching the ball with smooth routes and above average body control. McBride gathers himself so effortlessly in his route breaks, showing off natural hands and overall receiver traits. A Pierre Garcon-like player, McBride has the tape that could land him in the top-100 and his combine performance won't hurt that prediction.





3. (98) Henry Anderson, DT; Stanford: 6’6”, 294 lb.

40: 5.03 seconds
10: 1.63 seconds
Bench: 23 reps
Vertical: 30”
Broad: 111”
3 Cone: 7.20 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.19 seconds
Arms: 33.5"
Hands: 9.75"

Anderson has served time at both the DE and DT positions in the Cardinals pro style 34 defense and would be an easy transition over to the multiple fronts that Sutton employs for the Chiefs. Big, tall and long, he's extremely explosive and quick for a player his size and actually translates that into on the field production as he racked up 65 tackles, 15 TFL and 8.5 sacks. Disruptive and makes a lot of impact plays. Honorable Mention All-American. Conference First Team All-Academic.

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"Despite his imposing build, Anderson is just as likely to be beat opponents with his quickness off the snap as he is power. Anderson varies his pass rush speeds and chops with hands to create space and slip into the backfield. He's more flexible than he looks and uses his long arms to lasso ball-carriers. Anderson shows good functional strength to lock-out and create a pile."






4. (118) John Miller, OL; Louisville: 6’2 1/2”, 303 lb.

40: Combine – 5.33; Pro Day – 5.08
10: 1.87
Bench: 29 reps
Vertical: 27”
3 Cone: 8.20
20 Shuttle: 4.75
Broad: 104”
Arms: 33.25"
Hands: 10.25"

Miller, IMO, is the best interior lineman in the 2014 Draft. Extremely powerful and nasty, when he locks onto a defender, it’s over. Was the best player on the field at the Shrine game - a man amongst boys. While the Chiefs have signed two guards in the free agent market in Ben Grubbs and Paul Fanaika, there is a huge question mark at the Center position as Rod Hudson has departed for richer pastures – and guess who Miller talks to and patterns his game after? Former Louisville Cardinal and current Bills center Eric Wood. Like Hudson, a former standout college OG, Miller is a prime canidate to move inside to the Center position at the next level. He’s got very good knee bend, comes out of his stance quickly and uses his hands like meat cleavers on defenders. He has excellent leverage and strength and comes up with a ton of power. Is good on quick pulls. I think he’d be absolutely balls at any of the three OL spots, but has all the traits of a very, very good center in this scheme.

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Miller is the first guard I’ve broken down but has quickly become one of my favorites of all the players I’ve watched. There aren’t many flaws to his game.

He does a fantastic job of maintaining his base. Lower and upper half are in synch. He doesn’t lunge, always keeping his legs under him. Creates the knee bend you’re looking for and a powerful base to generate power from.

In pass protection, it allows him to anchor and absorb bull rushes as well as you could hope for. Couple that with his arm extension, and Miller should be textbook tape of how to “catch” defenders.





5. (172) Zach Vigil, LB; Utah State: 6’2”, 236 lb.

40: 4.66
Bench: 26 reps
Vertical: 32"
Broad: 118"
3 Cone: 7.11
20 Shuttle: 4.41

Vigil, who was not invited to the Combine after posting numbers that usually get you a Bukus award winning type of season with 154 tackles, 9 sacks, etc., had a very good pro day where he showed good speed, strength and moved very well in the drills. This pro day was attended by 20 NFL teams, including the Kansas City Chiefs, to basically watch Vigil. He’s a complete linebacker who plays with speed and instinct and excellent fundamentals. I think he’s one of the best ILBs in the Draft and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go a round or even two before this after showing the 4.6 speed.

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At linebacker you can have all the measurable in the world, but at the end of the day it means nothing if you don’t produce and Zach Vigil produced more last season than any other inside linebacker in the draft. His performance was consistent week in and week out with two negatively-graded games in 15 weeks.

When you think of a small school linebacker with big production getting little draft buzz it’s easy to assume that he’s a poor athlete, but that’s not the case with Vigil. His pro day numbers put him right around the inside linebacker average for almost all the events compared to historical combine figures. When you watch his tape, though, his coordination and instincts both jump out as above average.

The middle linebacker graded well above average rushing the passer, in coverage, and against the run. Vigil’s 76 total stops were the second most in the draft class and his 36 total pressures were the second most as well. He was also a very reliable tackler missing just 12 all year compared to 131 combined solos and assists.



5. (173) Ben Koyack, TE; Notre Dame: 6’5”, 255 lb.

40: 4.72
Bench: 16 reps
Vertical: 30"
Broad: 116"
3 Cone: 7.32
20 Shuttle: 4.52
60 Shuttle: 12.20
Arms: 32.5"
Hands: 10.75"

Originally had Ohio State's Jeff Heurerman here, but he's moved up on everyone's boards to the point that the fifth round doesn't seem to be a reality in a perceived weak TE draft for a guy with his athleticism and Urban Meyer's backing. As such, Notre Dame's Ben Koyack gets the nod. Big, physical player who is an excellent blocker with good, huge hands. Underutilized (seems to be a theme this year with the tight end position across the board), but is a talented player. Would work well opposite Kelce and be effective in red zone Jumbo sets that Reid throws out there from time to time. Pretty solid fifth rounder IMO.

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Possesses desired size and athleticism for the position. Can threaten the seam, though not asked to do so very often. Sinks hips and plays with twitch into and out of breaks. Large, strong hands. Hands-catcher with plus concentration in a crowd. Equally comfortable in–line or from the slot. Excels as run blocker with unique understanding of leverage and hand placement. Works to secure edge. Mirrors and stays engaged when walling off and hustles to get his man turned when responsible for play-side block. Has potential to be left on an island in pass protection. Competes hard.
Sounds exactly what this team needs at the position.




6. (193) Kyle Emanuel, OLB; North Dakota State: 6’3”, 255 lb.

40: 4.77 seconds
Bench: 27 reps
Vertical: 34”
Broad: 120”
3 Cone: 7.10 seconds
20 Shuttle: 4.25 seconds
60 Shuttle: 11.78 seconds

The reigning Buck Buchanan Award winner, Emanuel absolutely destroyed the FCS division with 70 tackles, 16.5 sacks, 27 tackles for loss, 3 forced fumbles and an interception. He’s not just a try hard, special teams guy – Emanuel has a number of effective pass rush moves, plays with power and speed and is well versed in fundamentals and possesses good instincts. A huge part of four FCS College Football Championships.

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Among the many defensive linemen to stand out this week, Kyle Emanuel put an impressive array of pass-rushing moves on display as he worked his way past offensive tackles throughout the week.
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College Football Performance Awards (CFPA) today announced several 2014 honors for four-time FCS national champion North Dakota State. Defensive lineman Kyle Emanuel was named the 2014 CFPA National Defensive Performer of the Year. The team, in addition, was honored for the top FCS performance in 2014.

Emanuel finished the 2014 season with 97 tackles in sixteen games. He had 32.5 tackles for loss, 19.5 sacks, three forced fumbles, and one interception.

Emanuel, who was previously honored as first-team All-American, first-team All-MVFC, and the Sports Network's Buck Buchanan Award winner, helped North Dakota State finish third in the FCS in scoring defense (14.1 points allowed per game) and sixth in passing yards allowed (155.0 passing yards per game).



6. (217) Antwan Goodley, WR; Baylor: 5’10”, 209 lb.

40: 4.44
Vertical: 35"
Broad: 127"
3 Cone: 7.19
20 Shuttle: 4.38

Thick, wide muscled frame that makes him look more like a running back than a wide receiver. Will absolutely explode downfield once the ball is in his hands. Has had a extremely productive career for the Bears and was QB Petty’s preferred target. Immensely strong, will just plow through defensive backs. Offers a lot of versatility for the position, capable of coming out of the backfield as well as being on the outside where he uses his athleticism to climb up for the ball.

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Goodley is explosive on and off the field. He has been clocked as fast as 4.39 seconds in the 40 and squats an amazing 660 pounds, second-most on the team. He also caught 71 passes for 1,339 yards (18.9 yards per reception) and 13 TDs last season, when he had five catches of at least 60 yards (most in the nation), eight of at least 40 yards (tied for sixth) and 14 of at least 30 yards (tied for third-most).



7. (233) Terrance Plummer, LB; Central Florida: 5'11 1/2", 240 lb.

40: 4.90
10: 1.64
Bench: 22 reps
Vertical: 33.5"
Broad: 112"
3 Cone: 7.16
20 Shuttle: 4.41

Plummer, over the course of his four years at UCF, has played inside and outside and has excelled. A tackling machine, he's averaged 105 tackles in each of his three starting seasons, including 99 tackles, 13 tfl and 4 sacks in 2014. Drops into coverage extremely well and has a knack for making the big play at the right time. Instinctive and fundamentally sound. Extremely hard worker and team leader. A very good football player. He's being seriously undervalued by the draftniks heading into the 2015 Draft. Reminds me a lot of London Fletcher.

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Plummer was highly-productive as a linebacker for the Knights, producing 334 total tackles (30.5 for loss), 6.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and four interceptions in his four seasons at UCF. He was also voted as a member of the All-American Athletic Conference's first team twice and was named the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl Defensive MVP in 2013.
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Terrance Plummer, who is an overachieving middle linebacker, very productive, always around the ball, never on the ground. Interesting guy as a late round pick. I think Plummer all over the field in a number of games this year. The Missouri game was a game you look back at he looked like he could be a third or fourth round pick. But I think in the late rounds, Plummer would make a lot of sense.


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Don't get me wrong Sac. I love Shelton, but I think WR, RT (holy shit this position is bad for us) and CB are bigger needs round 1. Depends on free agency I suppose.

Our DL has actually done a nice job for the most part. I'm watching the Donks game again and they force the OL to hold them, but Muaga is AIDS at LB and can't make a tackle to save his life, which has been a problem all year.

Also don't think Shelton will be there. A man that big with that athleticism with those stats will likely go top 15. Hell he might go top 10 when he blows up the combine.

I would love Eric Kendricks so I love that pick. I don't see him falling that far. Surely he's a top 50 pick. I see him going early to mid 2nd rd.
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Yeah, all we need to fix the oline in a 5th round guard.

Our WRs might as well do jumping max instead of running routes because Alex will not have time to get them the ball.
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Another year of not being able to do 3 step drops and jamaal forcing 2 missed tackles to get back to the LOS.
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Weird, I have gotten shit from you stiffs for years about o-line prospects and when I don't think that there's any worth a shit when we are going to pick you guys get all up in arms about NOT taking an offensive lineman. Whatever.

That being said, I think that this offensive line is one more season and a solid guard away from being good. I still believe that Fisher will put it together by next season and both Allen and Stephenson are legitimate players.

Personally, I think that the Chiefs are in no-man's land in terms of landing a solid offensive lineman. IMO, Cameron Erving is the OT with the highest upside in this draft. Guy is a stud. Raw, but a stud. La'el Collins is most likely the best guard prospect in this draft, but I don't necessarily think that he's any better than a guy like John Miller, who hasn't got the pub, but you watch his games and he's rag dolling dudes. Other than those two guys, it's a pretty "meh" draft on offensive linemen IMO.

Peat, Drango and Flowers are all juniors and all have been injured or nicked. Drango is coming off a back injury...ehhhhh. Peat, in the games I've watched, doesn't seem quick enough. Mauler, but not a lot of finesse. Flowers is much of the same.

I'm not really all that impressed with this years offensive line prospects.

I'd be inclined to use a very late rounder on a guy like Wisconsin's Rob Havenstein or Utah's Junior Salt (outside of guys like Erving and Miller), but I'm not sure about using a first or second day selection on a guy who doesn't provide anything above what we've already got or could have in the fifth or later rounds.
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i like this draft a lot

and we should reward sac for not spending high round picks on shitty OL (like fisher and stephenson)..
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I understand your reasoning for NT, but I don't see it happening. I'm also somewhat confused with selection of a TE. Also, no more garbage round QB's, please. I think we've picked that dumpster just fine for the time being.

But, still pretty solid.
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now that youve explained your reasoning behind neglecting the o line, there really isnt any sense in drafting a guy in position of need, if you dont think that guys going to contribute, or has a very high celing. i dont agree with your assesment of the olineman, i think there are more than a few guys in this draft ready to step in day one.but fwiw i do really like the players you picked. shelton, with poe at end would be nasty. do like kendricks a lot (dont think hes there in the third though). ive said here many times how much i like diggs and plummer.
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First off, re-typed this so I can wrap my head around it...
I actually put some time into a reply on a mock for once so don't take it personal

1. Danny Shelton, NT - Washington (6'2" 340)
Your plan is to draft a guy to play the spot we already have a STUD at in order do move said stud from that spot to defensive end... I'm not on board with this. Poe is very good where he is at and his athleticsm, strength, and size are what make him so good there. I want a disruptive DE, but I don't think Poe has that type of stamina to consistently come from the edge instead of straight up the middle. So... bad pick in my book. Shelton is a good football player but I don't think this is what you do to fix what you want to fix, and that is the defensive end position.

2. Cody Prewitt, S - Ole Miss (6'2" 212)
Prewitt is my favorite safety prospect in this class. I'm not sure whether or not he makes it this deep. If he test relatively well for the position at the combine, I think he goes 1st round. In round 2, this would be an A+ pick in my book.

3. Stefon Diggs, WR - Maryand (6'0" 195)
Despite his talent, I'm leaning heavily towards taking Diggs off of my board. He seems to lack sound character/intelligence with a few antics over his career, including his most recent run-in with an official. Diggs should actually be more productive than he is. He is a concern, a yo-yo type player with amazing physical abilities. We've seen those fizzle out in the league countless times. This being the first attempt to address the position of very high need would cause me to be more than a bit worried. Diggs needs to return to school for his senior year, grow up, and be more productive.

3. Eric Kendricks, ILB - UCLA (6'0" 230)
Kendricks really is a very good linebacker and I'm not sure he last to the tail-end of round 3. He would be quite appealing to a 4-3 team with his range and size. He's a bit undersized for a 3-4, but that isn't necessarily a huge detriment. I think he goes at least around your Diggs pick, if not sooner.

4. Jeff Heuerman, TE - Ohio State (6'6" 255)
A very underrated TE because of the amount of blocking he does at Ohio State. He makes the very most of every receiving opportunity. He reminds me a bunch of Kelce in college. I love this kid as a player. I think you get everything you ask for from this type of guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he lights up the combine as its most athletic TE overall either.

4. Sean Mannion, QB - Oregon State (6'5" 220)
Mannion has kinda fallen off of my list as a guy I "want." He just hasn't taken that next step as a player like I thought he could/would. I was hoping to see more, better decisions, more velocity on his ball, better pocket awareness and ability to step into pressure. I've actually moved Shane Carden up as the QB I'd like to see KC take a shot on. Carden has a more compact release (although he needs to be less sloppy too sometimes), steps up into the pocket and into throws, has more velocity, and seems to read past his hot better.

5. John Miller, OG - Louisville (6'2" 321)
I really like Miller a bunch and have been kind of overlooking him at times. Underrated, sleeper type. Really is solid all-around. Nothing much else to say. Wish he was quicker and longer, but he's going to be a rock none-the-less - or so it appears.

5. Wayne Lyons, CB - Stanford (6'1" 195)
I'm not thrilled with Lyons, seems too stiff to stick in man and isn't physical to press. Seems lost in zone. I need to watch more of him I think, but I'm not on board yet.

6. Jeff Luc, ILB - Cincinnati (6'1 251)
This is a guy I can get on board with as a late round pick. He still needs work, but he's finally showing he wants to put work into football. He could be something, but he's not a guy you take overly early given the history.

6. Terrance Plummer, ILB - Central Florida (6'2" 241)
I like plummer. He plays fast, he seems like a student of the game. He is always aware of the ball on the field. You can't teach those things. He can get bigger, stronger, faster. He's a guy I think can become a leader. Not sure what he'll become with certainty, but there's alot to like about his game.

7. Justin McCay, WR - Kansas (6'2" 210)
Meh. This is not a guy I would draft. I don't think he'll separate from defensive backs in the pros. Not enough experience. He could bounce around on a practice squad for a few years as a UDFA, but that's about all I see unless he learns the game from the PS.

Let's start with a couple things here aside from my individual analysis of each player...
3 ILBs? I'm not sure about that. One early, one late, yeah I'm on board with that. Take another late flyer on something else, maybe a skill position.

You say you like Jeff Allen, that's admirable. I don't, so I'm not enamored with one 5th round pick to address O-line. I'm worried about RT. I hate to keep picking the garbage bin. I'm worred about LG and OG depth. Maybe you get a starter out of Miller, but there is no depth either on this team.

You address WR with a Junior that should not declare, and looks every bit like he could end up being an NFL problem child if he does decare. The only other option is a guy in McCay that might become something after a couple years on a PS. Unless you have a plan to bring in free agents at the position, this screams of another shit year at the position.

I don't like your solution to the DE problem that isn't even really that much of a problem. I can live with our current defensive line if they retain what is here now, sans perhaps a backup NT that can take some snaps from Poe here and there. The real problem against the run is no ILBs that can come down and fill and you address that.

I'd say, go with this:

1.
2. S Prewitt
3. LB Kendricks
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4. TE Heuerman
4.
5. OG Miller
5.
6. LB Plummer
6.
7.

Fill in the blanks with something new.
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1. Danny Shelton, NT - Washington (6'2" 340)
Your plan is to draft a guy to play the spot we already have a STUD at in order do move said stud from that spot to defensive end... I'm not on board with this. Poe is very good where he is at and his athleticsm, strength, and size are what make him so good there. I want a disruptive DE, but I don't think Poe has that type of stamina to consistently come from the edge instead of straight up the middle. So... bad pick in my book. Shelton is a good football player but I don't think this is what you do to fix what you want to fix, and that is the defensive end position.
And couldn't you also make the argument that Doresy is once again using a first round pick on someone to replace a stud? It's pretty much the same philosophy of the Dee Ford pick which everyone around here hates.
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