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Old 06-10-2015, 12:54 PM  
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Knile Davis: No gap between Jamaal Charles and me

Knile Davis: No 'gap' between Jamaal Charles and me

By Marc Sessler

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Chiefs back Knile Davis does not lack for confidence.

The third-year runner swatted down the idea that Kansas City can't afford to rest Jamaal Charles come September, saying that he is every bit the equal of the All-Pro back.

"I don't feel like there's a gap," Davis said this week, per ESPN.com's Adam Teicher.

There certainly is a gap -- statistically, a vast one -- but who can fault Davis for showing confidence? Besides, he's rarely been given a chance at the lead role, starting just a pair of games over his first two NFL seasons. His 3.5 yards per tote off 204 attempts, though, is a far cry from the 5.5 yards per rush that Charles has churned out over seven outstanding seasons.

"He's the starter. It's his time. I'm waiting (until) my time," Davis said, adding that he doesn't doubt that Charles can fulfill his goal of playing another six years.

If that's the plan in K.C., Davis will need to earn a starting gig elsewhere to show off what he can do. As of today, we're comfortable calling him the clear-cut second option for a Chiefs outfit that plans to run the ball a ton this season.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:51 PM   #61
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It's supposed to be a run to the outside. He didn't shuffle and decide to bounce it, it's designed to go outside of Kelce sealing moore.
I understand it's a run to the outside. Fact is, there was no block, he looked right at the defender and tried to bounce it to the outside anyway when it wasn't there instead of pushing forward.

It's not really debatable.

And yes, he shuffled his feet while trying to make a half assed move on the defender instead of simply going forward.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:51 PM   #62
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This may not be the play you were thinking of and it appears to be a counter, but when you see a hole like that in a short yardage situation, you hit it and get that fresh set of downs.

Techniqually,I think the designed hole is supposed to be outside the fullback and lt down block with Kelce kicking out moore. Hudson didn't get his head accross the ilb and it kind of all got mushed.

Rock and a hard place. Situation being what it was, duck your head in that hole and fall forward for a furst, but they swung for a big play
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:51 PM   #63
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Exactly. They wanted a big play in a situation where the defense was keying on a a or b gap run. They were crashing.

Count the defenders, if Kelce makes that block Davis scores.

He did what he's coached to do.
Yeah, he's pretty clearly following the play call. Kelce blows his block and it's game over after that.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:53 PM   #64
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Yeah, he's pretty clearly following the play call. Kelce blows his block and it's game over after that.
If Alex would throw deep, it's not even an issue.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:54 PM   #65
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I understand it's a run to the outside. Fact is, there was no block, he looked right at the defender and tried to bounce it to the outside anyway when it wasn't there instead of pushing forward.

It's not really debatable.

And yes, he shuffled his feet while trying to make a half assed move on the defender instead of simply going forward.
Sorry, but he's supposed to follow kelce and play off his block. It's a counter play. Yes kelce missed said block but by that time, it's too late. Moore undercut the block and blew it up.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:54 PM   #66
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Once kelce ****ed it up, knile should have just fallen forward though, so yes I do agree with that
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:56 PM   #67
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2 YPC isnt THAT much of a gap

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Old 06-10-2015, 03:57 PM   #68
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Sorry, but he's supposed to follow kelce and play off his block. It's a counter play. Yes kelce missed said block but by that time, it's too late. Moore undercut the block and blew it up.
Sure, that's how it's designed, but it didn't happen the way it was designed, so he needs to use his vision to adjust and make the right choice.

Original point being, he does it more than he should.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:02 PM   #70
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Might not be a gap between Knile and Charles, but there sure as hell is between his ears. What in the world is Knile thinking? I mean, I want my players confidant, but they also need to be realistic! He ain't nowhere near Charles. NOWHERE.

Knile needs to put some decent numbers up and THEN start talkin'. Good grief.
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A gap in 40 times? That I can see. In football ability? And I'm a Davis guy, and a guy who thought when Charles was at Texas that he would be a change of pace back, at best, but Jamal is a monster.
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Sure, that's how it's designed, but it didn't happen the way it was designed, so he needs to use his vision to adjust and make the right choice.

Original point being, he does it more than he should.
He shouldn't trust Kelce to make his block?

He should forego the play and run into the gap that was filled by 2 defenders?

Sorry, no. He shouldn't have. He should trust his guy to make his block and spring him for the TD.

This is like blaming the QB for taking a sack when a corner comes unblocked on a blitz...even though his hot read was covered.
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Exactly. They wanted a big play in a situation where the defense was keying on a a or b gap run. They were crashing.

Count the defenders, if Kelce makes that block Davis scores.

He did what he's coached to do.
You just explained the difference between a great back and one that might be good.

A great back is instinctive, with vision, and makes plays outside the design.

A good back does what he's coached to do.

That's the gap between Charles and Davis.
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He shouldn't trust Kelce to make his block?

He should forego the play and run into the gap that was filled by 2 defenders?

Sorry, no. He shouldn't have. He should trust his guy to make his block and spring him for the TD.

This is like blaming the QB for taking a sack when a corner comes unblocked on a blitz...even though his hot read was covered.
He should open his ****ing eyes and realize Kelce whiffed. You keep resorting to this "filled by two defenders" nonsense. Sure, it's filled if you need a 5 yard run, not a few inches.

Your QB comparison is lame.
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