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Old 04-10-2017, 03:12 PM  
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Just kicked some poor guys ass for refusing to give up his seat!
You never see this on the United Airlines commercials....

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Old 04-12-2017, 07:14 PM   #721
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On the radio. There was a fake commercial for "The guy that got dragged off the planes greatest hits"

Led Zepplin has a scream in the song and it is replaced by the guy screaming. Hilarious

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Old 04-12-2017, 07:16 PM   #722
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Now we want to split hairs on the way in which the passenger was beaten. Good grief. It's still not acceptable.
Nobody's splitting hairs about how he was beaten, because he wasn't. What they did was wrong, but the posts below are dishonest.

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And the Chinese people are VERY sensitive to the fact that this American airline (no pun intended) chose to grab and beat the crap out of a guy of Chinese nationality.
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Dumbass should have gotten off, but they shouldn't have beat him bloody. Guess compensation will need to be given.
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This guy wasn't trying to do a hostile takeover of the plane. He wasn't interested in taking a pathetic offer for massive inconvenience, so he got the shit beat out of him and got dragged off the plane.
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Until you beat the shit out of an elderly asian. Then a few discounts won't cut it.
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But there's a MASSIVE gap between 'don't overbook' and 'beat the hell out of old asians'.
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**** your legalities. Right is right and wrong is wrong and this was wrong. Period. I don't give a shit if the security guards had a right to beat the **** out of him. They shouldn't have done it. You can get all hung up on contracts and shit, but it doesn't matter one ****ing bit.
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Yeah, maybe they were wanting to beat the shit out of the passenger who had the window seat, and this guy got in the way with his felonious quiet sitting.
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:17 PM   #723
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Yeah, the security guys are completely innocent in my book. They were told to get a troublemaker off the plane, and they did. But I have no doubt they'll get re-accommodated under the bus.
How do you figure? Again, the facts aren't in, but at the time 'they were told' to remove the passenger, there's no evidence that the airline personnel making the request had any idea what means would be necessary in the presence of security, or what means security would resort to. For all they knew, the passenger would see a badge, poop his pants and apologize for the inconvenience. Further, there's no evidence anyone but the enforcement personnel made any physical contact with the passenger.
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:19 PM   #724
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Nobody's splitting hairs about how he was beaten, because he wasn't. What they did was wrong, but the posts below are dishonest.
Hey Mr. Technical, people are just expressing their opinions here.
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:23 PM   #725
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I used to think that First Class passengers were immune to being bumped. Apparently I was wrong:

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Old 04-12-2017, 07:25 PM   #726
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Hey Mr. Technical, people are just expressing their opinions here.
Not sure what your point is. People can have the opinion that the guy "got his ass beat", "got the **** beat out of him", etc., but they're wrong.
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:27 PM   #727
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Not sure what your point is. People can have the opinion that the guy "got his ass beat", "got the **** beat out of him", etc., but they're wrong.
Any news when you're getting your sense of humor back from the shop?
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Old 04-12-2017, 07:29 PM   #728
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How do you figure? Again, the facts aren't in, but at the time 'they were told' to remove the passenger, there's no evidence that the airline personnel making the request had any idea what means would be necessary in the presence of security, or what means security would resort to. For all they knew, the passenger would see a badge, poop his pants and apologize for the inconvenience. Further, there's no evidence anyone but the enforcement personnel made any physical contact with the passenger.
How do I figure they're innocent or how do I figure they're going to get re-accommodated?

If you're security and someone tells you to get that guy off the plane, your job is to get that guy off the plane. Per the comments below, they didn't Rodney King him, and pulling a non-cooperating guy out from an airplane seat is going to cause some ruckus given that the leg room is about 4 inches. So I don't think they used excessive force.

But they'll get re-accommodated because if the fellow wasn't bleeding, and if he didn't somehow get back on the airplane, this video wouldn't have spiraled out of control to a billion Chinese. So they're going to get blamed for that.
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How do I figure they're innocent or how do I figure they're going to get re-accommodated?

If you're security and someone tells you to get that guy off the plane, your job is to get that guy off the plane. Per the comments below, they didn't Rodney King him, and pulling a non-cooperating guy out from an airplane seat is going to cause some ruckus given that the leg room is about 4 inches. So I don't think they used excessive force.

But they'll get re-accommodated because if they fellow wasn't bleeding, and if he didn't somehow get back on the airplane, this video wouldn't have spiraled out of control to a billion Chinese. So they're going to get blamed for that.
Indeed. I heard earlier today that United's losses are in the neighborhood of 1 Billion and counting.

The CEO has completely reversed his position and is now apologizing to any camera he can. Says that "Security" will no longer be used to remove passengers. So now what? They'll get Bambi, the "Flight attendant" to throw the cuffs on an unruly passenger? Interesting....
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Old 04-12-2017, 08:51 PM   #733
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If the airline needs to get 4 employees to another airport to crew another scheduled flight at the destination, I am pretty sure they have the right to boot people from the plane.
Since they knew in advance the employees needed to go to Louisville don't you think they should have planned ahead? Shouldn't they have already reserved seats for those employees? This can't be the first time employees needed to fly to another city, in fact it happens every single day.

This is poor planning by the airline. And the 4 employees share the blame too. They can't make it to the plane on time? These are professionals. The passengers should never have to pay the price - especially not THIS price - for the incompetence of the airline and its employees.
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How do I figure they're innocent or how do I figure they're going to get re-accommodated?

If you're security and someone tells you to get that guy off the plane, your job is to get that guy off the plane. Per the comments below, they didn't Rodney King him, and pulling a non-cooperating guy out from an airplane seat is going to cause some ruckus given that the leg room is about 4 inches. So I don't think they used excessive force.

But they'll get re-accommodated because if the fellow wasn't bleeding, and if he didn't somehow get back on the airplane, this video wouldn't have spiraled out of control to a billion Chinese. So they're going to get blamed for that.
So do you figure no one faces battery [unwanted physical contact] charges? Hard to tell if 'not Rodney Kinging him' means no culpability for the security personnel, but certainly there is no evidence anyone else touched him physically, or order [or even predicted] that the personnel would get physical.

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Old 04-12-2017, 09:07 PM   #735
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Not sure what your point is. People can have the opinion that the guy "got his ass beat", "got the **** beat out of him", etc., but they're wrong.
Agreed. The security officer did not intend to cause that damage.

Although I did read an article that said when the passenger was removed from the plane the SECOND time he was taken off on a stretcher (according to another passenger). I've also seen articles stating that all passengers were removed from the plane after the passenger ran back on and went to the back of the plane. Their is no video of the passenger's second removal that I could find.

Lots of additional questions. Will be interesting to see how everything shakes out. Anyone know if the passenger has been released from the hospital yet?
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