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Old 12-22-2014, 08:13 PM  
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:02 AM   #6136
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You still haven't answered my original post. #6130 (Shocking!)

Once you do that, I'll consider addressing yours . . . . . . . .
I just answered it genius. I said the Broncos aren't good at evaluating talent. So no, he wasn't worth the pick and isn't going to be worth that pick going forward.

Now answer mine.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:08 AM   #6137
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I just answered it genius. I said the Broncos aren't good at evaluating talent. So no, he wasn't worth the pick and isn't going to be worth that pick going forward.

Now answer mine.
Nice evasion tactic.


So you were wrong? Someone did want that 'damaged' player?

You were so sure he was falling out of the first round. You were wrong about that too?

He would be drafted in later rounds, probably around the same time as Heeney. Also, wrong about that one, correct? (Or are you going to now claim that Heeney will be drafted at the top of the second? BTW, we can take bets on that if you want)


Just say it . . . . it's not hard. I. Was. Wrong.


If you can manage those three words, I will answer your question.


Until then, go **** yourself.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:12 AM   #6138
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Nice evasion tactic.


So you were wrong? Someone did want that 'damaged' player?

You were so sure he was falling out of the first round. You were wrong about that too?

He would be drafted in later rounds, probably around the same time as Heeney. Also, wrong about that one, correct? (Or are you going to now claim that Heeney will be drafted at the top of the second? BTW, we can take bets on that if you want)


Just say it . . . . it's not hard. I. Was. Wrong.


If you can manage those three words, I will answer your question.


Until then, go **** yourself.
I can't explain the actions of some team.

But I was wrong in thinking that all these teams knew what they were doing. What was I thinking??

Now, do you agree with me? Or are the Broncos good talent evaluators?
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:15 AM   #6139
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Oh, and before you answer. You might want to go check the CP poll on this subject.

Seems like most everyone on this site believe the Broncos made the worst move in this division.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:17 AM   #6140
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I. Was. Wrong.


It's not hard . . . . you know you want to. After all of the lying over these years, it'll make you feel better, I promise.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:17 AM   #6141
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Oh, and before you answer. You might want to go check the CP poll on this subject.

Seems like most everyone on this site believe the Broncos made the worst move in this division.
You said MOST evaluators had him going very late. That was a lie. Do you want to defend that?

Also, you don't understand how polls work. Because they didn't get the most votes for best pick does not mean they had the worst pick. You aren't very smart.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:18 AM   #6142
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I. Was. Wrong.


It's not hard . . . . you know you want to. After all of the lying over these years, it'll make you feel better, I promise.
Did you not read my post?

I was wrong.

Now, let's hear it.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:20 AM   #6143
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Oh, and before you answer. You might want to go check the CP poll on this subject.

Seems like most everyone on this site believe the Broncos made the worst move in this division.
Yeah, I saw that thread. I also read the content of it. Did you?

Most in the thread think all the teams did well with their picks.


If your argument is that the Broncos got the 'worst' of the 4 players? Well, they did pick 23rd, while the other 3 picked 18 or higher. Kind of a dumb argument when you consider draft position.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:22 AM   #6144
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So are you going to answer or just D.E.F.L.E.C.T???
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:23 AM   #6145
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So are you going to answer or just D.E.F.L.E.C.T???
Did "most" evaluators have Ray falling way down?
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:25 AM   #6146
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He was already out of the first round according to most draft analysts.

This was a lie.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:27 AM   #6147
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Am I going to be waiting a long time Tom?

If so I can go find something to do. Just let me know when you'll have your answer.
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:29 AM   #6148
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Did you not read my post?

I was wrong.

Now, let's hear it.
Good for you, Bambi. I knew you could do it.


Now, I will answer your question.

Do I think Shane Ray was a Top 10 talent? No, I don't.

Do I think the Broncos traded up unnecessarily for him when they could have waited a few picks later and got him with their pick? Hard to say for sure (not knowing what other teams were gonna do), but probably.

Are the Broncos good evaluators of talent? In general, no. I can't remember being very impressed with many of their drafts in recent years or FA signings (exceptions with Sanders and Manning, of course).

Would I have liked to see the Chiefs take Ray at #18? No. He doesn't fit our system and we don't need him.

Is he a good fit for the Broncos? Time will tell. He will get every opportunity to shine being on the opposite side of Von Miller. I think there's a good chance he posts double digit sacks his rookie season.

But we shall see . . . . .
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:30 AM   #6149
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Doubt it, SaulGood will just claim it was the arrest (that didn't matter) which mattered. And dropped him back end of the 1st.
What did I miss? Who got arrested?
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Old 05-01-2015, 08:31 AM   #6150
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What did I miss? Who got arrested?
Ben Heeney, that's why he didn't go in the first round.
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