Chiefs Cutting Donnie Avery

[Dante84]

Source: #Chiefs are cutting veteran WR Donnie Avery, which saves them $3.4M against the cap. Expected to target that position this week.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) February 17, 2015

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

ChiefsPlanet: Where Albert Wilson is spoken of in glowing prose, Dwayne Bowe sucks shit, and Knile "3.5 YPC" Davis is an excellent back.

Apparently, Wilson had been suffering from a training camp injury and wasn't 100% until the final four games of the season. I would imagine that even in that limited playing time, he gained some meaningful experienced and really flashed talent.

If he can continue that course, a 60 catch, 800 yard WR with speed that's already on the roster would be a very welcome sight.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

To me, Bowe hasn't been a #1 since 2010. That isn't to say that he "sucks", it's just that he hasn't been that unstoppable force that is generally associated with being a #1 WR.

He's had a few great games along the way but he hasn't been consistently outstanding since 2010.

Yea I never said he sucks but he's a #2 WR getting paid like a top 5 WR. With a cash strapped team that's a problem. Especially with a guy who's going to be on the wrong side of 30.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Billay

Yea I never said he sucks but he's a #2 WR getting paid like a top 5 WR. With a cash strapped team that's a problem. Especially with a guy who's going to be on the wrong side of 30.

There is no doubt that he needs to take a major, major pay cut.

I don't blame Dorsey & Reid for locking him up but after the first year, the contract should have significantly decreased and because it increased, the Chiefs will take a major cap charge whether he's cut or restructured.

It doesn't look like there's any way out of it.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

12 catches. That's 4 per game. That is not a lot. About what Bowe ended up catching (60) and nobody was satisfied with that. Including I would assume Bowe.

So when Cobb comes in and catches 60 passes at 9 million a year are we going to be satisfied with that?

My guess is no, we'll complain that he's not getting open, or dropping too many passes, or how he's just not a number one, and how he's overpaid, and what a mistake it was, and who can we bring in in 2016 that fits what Alex Smith does.

Of course I would assume that it's a moot point, that Green Bay will keep him, and even if they don't we aren't going to be willing to pay that much.

Over a 16 game season, Wilsons stats project to over 1000 yards. And if we say that Cobb is a better version of him, then we can expect even better production.
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[-King-]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

ChiefsPlanet: Where Albert Wilson is spoken of in glowing prose, Dwayne Bowe sucks shit, and Knile "3.5 YPC" Davis is an excellent back.

For a UDFA, Wilson showed a lot of promise the last few weeks, don't you agree? And no one has said Bowe sucks shit, he just isn't a #1 receiver at this point of his career.
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[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by -King-

Over a 16 game season, Wilsons stats project to over 1000 yards. And if we say that Cobb is a better version of him, then we can expect even better production.
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It would also be the greatest career start for a UDFA receiver in league if he does that in the next two or three seasons by a big margin.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by -King-

Over a 16 game season, Wilsons stats project to over 1000 yards. And if we say that Cobb is a better version of him, then we can expect even better production.
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Sure, if you want to blissfully ignore the fact that Alex Smith is the quarterback.

Anybody can cherry pick a short string of games and project that out. Between weeks 7 and 10 Bowe caught 25 passes for nearly 300 yards. Does that mean he projects out to a 100-catch, 1200-yard receiver with Alex Smith?

No. It means he had a good month.

Along a similar line, trying to characterize Albert Wilson's 3-game stretch, where he caught all of 12 passes for @200 yards, as 'outperforming Bowe' is really sidestepping the fact that that's really not all that impressive a stretch of games for Wilson.

Let me rephrase that: it IS an impressive stretch for Wilson. It would not be an impressive stretch for a top quarterback throwing to a top receiver. That's like a phenomenal game for Megatron.

The fact that anyone is trying to use such a modest performance to artificially prop up Alex Smith's ability to get the ball to a receiver - which is where this little tangent started - is a sign of just how desperate people are to find a positive spin to the shituation in which we currently find ourselves.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Sure, if you want to blissfully ignore the fact that Alex Smith is the quarterback.

Anybody can cherry pick a short string of games and project that out. Between weeks 7 and 10 Bowe caught 25 passes for nearly 300 yards. Does that mean he projects out to a 100-catch, 1200-yard receiver with Alex Smith?

No. It means he had a good month.

Along a similar line, trying to characterize Albert Wilson's 3-game stretch, where he caught all of 12 passes for @200 yards, as 'outperforming Bowe' is really sidestepping the fact that that's really not all that impressive a stretch of games for Wilson.

Let me rephrase that: it IS an impressive stretch for Wilson. It would not be an impressive stretch for a top quarterback throwing to a top receiver. That's like a phenomenal game for Megatron.

The fact that anyone is trying to use such a modest performance to artificially prop up Alex Smith's ability to get the ball to a receiver - which is where this little tangent started - is a sign of just how desperate people are to find a positive spin to the shituation in which we currently find ourselves.

[ping2000]

Someone should start a thread about cutting Donnie Avery.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think the solution is a five wide TE set

This. Just keep drafting TE and RB, and horizontal-bop your way to the sacred 13-3 every year!

w00t!

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

There is no doubt that he needs to take a major, major pay cut.

I don't blame Dorsey & Reid for locking him up but after the first year, the contract should have significantly decreased and because it increased, the Chiefs will take a major cap charge whether he's cut or restructured.

It doesn't look like there's any way out of it.

If cut as a June 1 designation, KC saves 9.5 million.

He has 9m in dead money left from his signing bonus and has a cap hit of 14m. That 9 cuts in half if used as june1 designation clearing 9.5 off this years cap.

Unless he agrees to a big paycut...he's gone.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Surely has nothing to do with the quarterbacks he's played with.

Or fumbling at the goal line, dropping passes that hit both hands, having a backup CB knock a TD out of your hands.

#1 WR quality right there

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Sure, if you want to blissfully ignore the fact that Alex Smith is the quarterback.

Anybody can cherry pick a short string of games and project that out. Between weeks 7 and 10 Bowe caught 25 passes for nearly 300 yards. Does that mean he projects out to a 100-catch, 1200-yard receiver with Alex Smith?

No. It means he had a good month.

Along a similar line, trying to characterize Albert Wilson's 3-game stretch, where he caught all of 12 passes for @200 yards, as 'outperforming Bowe' is really sidestepping the fact that that's really not all that impressive a stretch of games for Wilson.

Let me rephrase that: it IS an impressive stretch for Wilson. It would not be an impressive stretch for a top quarterback throwing to a top receiver. That's like a phenomenal game for Megatron.

The fact that anyone is trying to use such a modest performance to artificially prop up Alex Smith's ability to get the ball to a receiver - which is where this little tangent started - is a sign of just how desperate people are to find a positive spin to the shituation in which we currently find ourselves.

Fantastic post that points how ****ing shitty of a coach Andy Reid truly is...

[BossChief]

Wilson would have had more yards if Alex didn't overthrow him on a couple deep passes that he broke wide open.

[Easy 6]

Every single year this board gets fixated on a couple of free agents, and every single year this board is disappointed... Cobb isn't leaving Wisconsin, and if he does, he isn't coming to KC.

They're going to sign a second tier guy and draft a couple of others, everyone is setting themselves up for a big fall hoping for some big name receiver.

At best, they'll grab another decent tight end to pair with Kelce.