Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 408

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Yeah, cause I've done that.

OK, cool. Goodnight.

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I have a small task for you.

Without including guys drafted in 2012, list the quarterbacks that won 6 or more games as rookies.

See ya in a little bit.

No Luck or RG III.... I see what you did there, sorry I am way to lazy right now.

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

It's cherry picking to show his stats from his teams wins?

He is a rookie, consistency is a rarity among rookies.

Last year made people forget that.

What you want to see is flashing of the players upside...things to build on. You also want to see mistakes so you can formulate a game plan based on his strengths and weaknesses. Geno has shown that he can perform at a high level if put into position to do so. Even with a talentless team.

Here is the post that was refuted, I even bolded the part you bolded.

My point is that winning 6 or 7 games as a rookie is a fairly significant accomplishment.

tonyetony · 12-09-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I thought you were gonna tell me about how winning 6 or 7 games as a rookie quarterback is normal in this league...

No dumb ass, you need to convince me and the world that Geno is going to be better than average.

-King- · 12-09-2013, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Did you not watch preseason?

How many fumbles did he have? How many times did people liken his short game to Brodie Croyle because he was throwing lasers everywhere? How many picks did he throw? How many times did he stare guys down?

It doesn't take a genious (cp spelling) to see these things during preseason.

He had 1 int and 2 fumbles. Geno had 3 INTs in preseason...

**Mav** · 12-09-2013, 12:25 AM

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He is an inconsistent rookie, but it's not like he hasn't flashed the ability to be a good player.

63% 256 1-1 in first game
331 2:2 and a rushing td against Buffalo
80% 200 yards 3td 0 int against Atlanta
233 1:1 and a rushing td against New England (and a player of the week award)
64% 219 1:1 and a rushing td against Oakland

The kid has been impressive in some weeks, the trouble is that he comes back the next wee and looks so bad he makes you forget he was ever good.

that's just the bottom of the league for defenses right there. Not one defense you named is in the top 20 id bet without looking it up.

**BossChief** · 12-09-2013, 12:27 AM

DISCLAIMER: PRESEASON STATS

Bray
21-40 passing. 222 yards. 2 fumbles and a pick.

Is that better than what Geno is giving NY?

For some reason I thought he turned the ball over more.

One thing goes without question. ..if Geno doesn't clean up the turnovers, he won't keep getting chances to. That's gotta come first. He has been doing a better job of keeping the ball high while reading the defense, but he still has a ways to go in terms of identifying coverages. That's to be expected and he is hopefully learning so when he sees it the next time, he knows how to capitalize.

-King- · 12-09-2013, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

DISCLAIMER: PRESEASON STATS

Bray
21-40 passing. 222 yards. 2 fumbles and a pick.

Is that better than what Geno is giving NY?

For some reason I thought he turned the ball over more.

One thing goes without question. ..if Geno doesn't clean up the turnovers, he won't keep getting chances to. That's gotta come first. He has been doing a better job of keeping the ball high while reading the defense, but he still has a ways to go in terms of identifying coverages. That's to be expected and he is hopefully learning so when he sees it the next time, he knows how to capitalize.

Thats pretty cool how you left off the 3 TDs.

**Mav** · 12-09-2013, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

DISCLAIMER: PRESEASON STATS

Bray
21-40 passing. 222 yards. 2 fumbles and a pick.

Is that better than what Geno is giving NY?

For some reason I thought he turned the ball over more.

One thing goes without question. ..if Geno doesn't clean up the turnovers, he won't keep getting chances to. That's gotta come first. He has been doing a better job of keeping the ball high while reading the defense, but he still has a ways to go in terms of identifying coverages. That's to be expected and he is hopefully learning so when he sees it the next time, he knows how to capitalize.

All your stats of Geno's good games did, was highlight exactly what people who didn't think he was a franchise qb said.

He feasted on weaker competition, but any time he faced a true defense he failed. Just go back and watch the Kstate WVU game last year.

Its been proven this year.

Oakland is horrid on defense. Bills? Pats? Falcons? Those are god awful defenses.

He may turn out to be a good one. But, a leopard has a hard time changing his spots.

tonyetony · 12-09-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

DISCLAIMER: PRESEASON STATS

Bray
21-40 passing. 222 yards. 2 fumbles and a pick.

Is that better than what Geno is giving NY?

For some reason I thought he turned the ball over more.

One thing goes without question. ..if Geno doesn't clean up the turnovers, he won't keep getting chances to. That's gotta come first. He has been doing a better job of keeping the ball high while reading the defense, but he still has a ways to go in terms of identifying coverages. That's to be expected and he is hopefully learning so when he sees it the next time, he knows how to capitalize.

Fair enough.....good luck chocolate prince.

**BossChief** · 12-09-2013, 12:38 AM

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that's just the bottom of the league for defenses right there. Not one defense you named is in the top 20 id bet without looking it up.

Scoring defenses:

Patriots are 10th
Bucs are 11th

The rest are garbage.

**BossChief** · 12-09-2013, 12:40 AM

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Thats pretty cool how you left off the 3 TDs.

I'm typing on this pos loaner phone. I thought I did. Wasnt intentional.

**Mav** · 12-09-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Scoring defenses:

Patriots are 10th
Bucs are 11th

The rest are garbage.

I saw that pats d today. But, I get your point.

Just saying in general that he has not played well against strong defenses.

Was the buccs game the week one game where he was saved by the personal foul?

COchief · 12-09-2013, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Thats pretty cool how you left off the 3 TDs.

I noticed that too, he's already known for being sneaky though.

**BossChief** · 12-09-2013, 12:45 AM

View Poll Results: Who will win more games in the next five years?
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