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Your quarterback-drafting trivia quiz of the week.

In preparation for the 2017 NFL Annual player selection process, I have a quarterback drafting quiz for you.

Here are the background rules:

1. We're talking only about quarterbacks.
2. We're talking about the 47 drafts from 1970 through 2016, nothing before that.
3. For Questions 1 through 3, I'm just taking raw numbers, regardless of how long a franchise has been around. For Questions 4 through 6, for franchises that didn't exist all 47 years, I scaled up their picks to a 47-year extrapolated total.
4. When I talk about draft points, I assume that the pick occurred in the middle of the round and didn't track the actual selection spot. So all first-round picks are the same value, all second-round picks are the same value, etc.
5. I assumed that any pick beyond the 8th round is an 8th round pick, because why not?
6. I sum by franchise. So the Titans include the Oilers, the Rams include all of their various cities, etc. So answer by team name, not city name.

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1. Two franchises have invested in 6 first-round QBs since 1970. Name them. Titans/Oilers and Colts

2. Three teams have invested in only 1 first-round pick since 1970. Three have existed since 1970, and one is newer. Name them. Texans, Cowboys, Saints.

3. Only 1 team has invested 8 or more picks since 1970 in the 1st or 2nd round on QBs. What team? Jets.

4. Regardless of the round taken, what three teams have drafted the most QBs since 1970? Bengals 32, Packers 31, Bears 27

5. Regardless of the round taken, what three teams have drafted the fewest QBs since 1970? Jaguars (15 when scaled up), Saints 17, Seahawks, Vikings, Panthers - 18 with scaling.

6. Including draft point values (see Rule 4 above), what three teams have invested the most draft points on QBs since 1970?

7. Including draft point values (see Rule 4 above), what three teams have invested the fewest draft points on QBs since 1970?

8. Where do the Chiefs rank among the 32 franchises in terms of total draft points invested?

9. What is the average number of quarterbacks drafted per 46 years of existence in the NFL? 23

10, How many total quarterbacks have been drafted by the Chiefs since 1970? 21

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Old 04-25-2017, 05:32 PM   #49
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I'd assume that #5 is the newest teams: Carolina, Jacksonville, and Houston

After that, probably Baltimore and Seattle.
In raw terms, you're correct in that the newest teams have drafted the fewest: 7 Jaguars, 7 Texans, and 8 Panthers. However, if you scale all of the teams up to a 47 year time span, the fewest quarterbacks would be drafted by the:

Jaguars - scales to 15 over 47 years.
Saints - 17
Seahawks, Vikings, Panthers - 18 when scaled to 47 years.
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Old 04-25-2017, 05:34 PM   #50
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In raw terms, you're correct in that the newest teams have drafted the fewest: 7 Jaguars, 7 Texans, and 8 Panthers. However, if you scale all of the teams up to a 47 year time span, the fewest quarterbacks would be drafted by the:

Jaguars - scales to 15 over 47 years.
Saints - 17
Seahawks, Vikings, Panthers - 18 when scaled to 47 years.
I counted 17 for Atlanta. I will have to check again though.
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5. Jags, browns and some other equally bad team.
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:42 PM   #53
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I counted 17 for Atlanta. I will have to check again though.
I'm showing 21 for Atlanta, which is slightly below average.

2013 7 249 Sean Renfree
2008 1 3 Matt Ryan
2006 7 223 D.J. Shockley
2004 3 90 Matt Schaub
2002 5 158 Kurt Kittner
2001 1 1 Michael Vick
1997 7 204 Tony Graziani
1994 4 111 Perry Klein
1991 2 33 Brett Favre*HOF
1989 8 202 Paul Singer
1987 1 13 Chris Miller
1986 11 280 Chris Hegg
1984 6 148 Ben Bennett
1982 6 149 Mike Kelley
1979 6 154 Mike Moroski
1975 1 1 Steve Bartkowski
1975 17 418 Mitch Anderson
1974 3 69 Kim McQuilken
1973 14 351 John Madeya
1972 2 40 Pat Sullivan
1971 3 59 Leo Hart
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5. Jags, browns and some other equally bad team.
I've got:

Jaguars - scales to 15 over 47 years.
Saints - 17
Seahawks, Vikings, Panthers - 18

But there's a twist on the Jags that will be revealed shortly.
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4. Washington Redskins, San Fran, Donx
Redskins is a good guess, but not quite there. Those teams are all middle of the pack.

The answer to Q4 is:

Bengals 32
Packers 31
Bears 27

The Bengals don't surprise me, but the other two teams do. I'm surprised by the Packers because they went 20 years without needing a second-string quarterback, so why did they keep drafting them?

And the Bears must be absolutely terrible at drafting QBs. They've drafted 27 and I don't think we would recognize any of them.

2003 1 22 Rex Grossman
1999 1 12 Cade McNown
1987 1 26 Jim Harbaugh
1982 1 5 Jim McMahon
1973 2 33 Gary Huff
1990 3 63 Peter Tom Willis
2005 4 106 Kyle Orton
1992 4 107 Will Furrer
2011 5 160 Nathan Enderle
2004 5 148 Craig Krenzel
2014 6 183 David Fales
2010 6 181 Dan LeFevour
1970 6 133 Bobby Cutburth
1977 6 140 Vince Evans
1975 6 135 Bob Avellini
1998 7 232 Moses Moreno
1991 7 190 Paul Justin
1989 7 192 Brent Snyder
1971 7 167 Buddy Lee
1972 7 167 Jim Fassel
1984 9 244 Mark Casale
1981 10 260 Tim Clifford
1980 9 242 Turk Schonert
1974 17 420 Craig Holland
1974 13 316 Joe Barnes
1974 8 186 Alan Chadwick
1971 15 376 Ron Maciejowski
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The Packers sure destroyed a lot of guys' careers by burying them behind Favre and not letting them start a single game.

But actually, several of those guys escaped. Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Brooks, Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Brunell, even Ty Detmer to some extent. The Packers were good at drafting backup quarterbacks.

2015 5 147 Brett Hundley
2012 7 243 B.J. Coleman
2008 2 56 Brian Brohm
2008 7 209 Matt Flynn
2006 5 148 Ingle Martin
2005 1 24 Aaron Rodgers
2002 5 164 Craig Nall
1999 4 131 Aaron Brooks
1998 6 187 Matt Hasselbeck
1997 7 240 Ron McAda
1996 7 240 Kyle Wachholtz
1995 5 160 Jay Barker
1993 5 118 Mark Brunell
1992 9 230 Ty Detmer
1990 9 242 Kirk Baumgartner
1989 3 74 Anthony Dilweg
1989 4 87 Jeff Graham
1988 10 256 Bud Keyes
1987 10 255 Don Majkowski
1986 3 72 Robbie Bosco
1985 11 294 Joe Shield
1984 6 153 Randy Wright
1981 1 6 Rich Campbell
1981 10 255 Nickie Hall
1978 9 228 Keith Myers
1978 8 200 Dennis Sproul
1977 8 206 David Whitehurst
1975 12 296 Carlos Brown
1972 1 11 Jerry Tagge
1971 6 140 Scott Hunter
1970 10 251 Frank Patrick
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:15 PM   #58
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You ready for draft points? Recall that I assumed every pick occurred in the middle of the round. Otherwise, the #1 picks would blow away the curve.

The Jaguars don't pick a lot of guys, but they're not averse to using first-round picks on them. If you scaled up the Jaguars to 47 years of drafts based on their current history, they would have the most first-round quarterbacks on the league.

If I was going purely on draft points by individual pick, though, the Colts would blow away the league. They've drafted four #1 picks over the years, whereas no other team has more than two.

The bottom end of the scale is really interesting as well. The Cowboys have had one of the best QB histories in the league from 1970, but they're mainstay QBs were drafted before my timeline (Staubach), one first-rounder (Aikman), and an undrafted free agent (Romo).

The Giants have had a lot of Super Bowl success as well and they don't invest squat in QBs. Their only picks in the top two rounds have been Phil Simms and Phillip Rivers.

Franchise
Players Picked Per 47 Year Period
Draft Points of Player Value

Jaguars 15 7167
Titans 20 6934
Colts 26 6863
Buccaneers 26 6677
Browns 26 6614
Jets 23 5918
Raiders 22 5829
Bengals 32 5763
Panthers 18 5648
Cardinals 24 5571
Bills 26 5521
Falcons 21 5498
Ravens 25 5242
Vikings 18 5026
Lions 19 4989
Bears 27 4878
Patriots 25 4843
Broncos 24 4833
Redskins 25 4616
Eagles 19 4535
Steelers 21 4437
Texans 23 4280
Packers 31 4157
Dolphins 25 3978
Chiefs 21 3514
Chargers 25 3502
Seahawks 18 3132
49ers 26 2963
Rams 26 2661
Giants 20 2607
Cowboys 21 2432
Saints 17 1481
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Here's the total "real" data for QB's drafted since 1970 for anyone thrilled to see it (attached .xls spreadsheet):

Team Total QBs Total Draft Value Average Draft Value Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6 Round 7+
Atlanta 21 11,349.7 540.5 4 2 3 1 1 3 7
Arizona 26 9,246.4 355.6 4 4 5 2 1 1 9
Baltimore 11 2,073.8 188.5 2 - 1 - 1 4 3
Buffalo 26 6,146.7 236.4 3 4 4 1 2 - 12
Carolina 8 5,316.3 664.5 2 1 - 2 1 2 -
Chicago 26 5,718.5 219.9 4 1 1 2 2 5 11
Cincinnati 33 12,891.9 390.7 5 2 3 3 4 3 13
Cleveland 26 12,194.2 469.0 6 - 6 4 - 3 7
Dallas 22 7,642.2 347.4 2 2 1 4 2 3 8
Denver 25 4,606.2 184.2 4 1 2 3 1 1 13
Detroit 18 9,047.4 502.6 4 2 - 1 2 5 4
Green Bay 30 4,885.0 162.8 3 1 2 2 5 3 14
Houston 7 3,238.0 462.6 1 - 1 1 1 1 2
Indianapolis 27 17,558.1 650.3 6 1 2 1 1 3 13
Jacksonville 7 5,353.0 764.7 3 - 1 2 - 1 -
Kansas City 21 4,125.9 196.5 2 2 2 3 3 - 9
Miami 26 4,314.3 165.9 2 4 - 3 2 2 13
Minnesota 19 4,872.9 256.5 4 2 - 3 1 2 7
New England 25 9,215.0 368.6 3 2 5 3 1 2 9
New Orleans 18 5,383.4 299.1 2 - 1 2 2 4 7
New York Giants 21 5,556.2 264.6 3 - 1 4 3 3 7
New York Jets 24 8,748.6 364.5 5 4 1 2 1 4 7
Oakland 23 7,186.9 312.5 3 3 3 3 1 2 8
Philadelphia 19 8,125.2 427.6 3 2 2 4 2 2 4
Pittsburgh 21 6,416.6 305.6 3 2 2 1 5 2 6
Los Angeles Rams 28 8,414.4 300.5 2 3 2 5 - 4 12
Los Angeles Chargers 27 8,139.9 301.5 2 3 2 2 3 4 11
San Francisco 25 4,861.1 194.4 2 1 2 - 2 4 14
Seattle 17 4,656.8 273.9 2 - 4 2 - 2 7
Tampa Bay 25 13,529.5 541.2 6 1 2 1 2 1 12
Tennessee 21 14,203.8 676.4 6 1 3 - 1 2 8
Washington 25 6,988.2 279.5 4 - 1 5 - 7 8

"Supplemental Selection Adjustments:
Phoenix Cardinals 1989 Supplemental Pick of Timm Rosenbach cost them their Round 1, 3rd overall selection in 1990.
Buffalo Bills 1985 Supplemental Pick of Bernie Kosar cost them their Round 1, 1st overall selection in 1986.
Dallas Cowboys 1989 Supplemental Pick of Steve Walsh cost them their Round 1, 1st overall selection in 1990.
New Orleans Saints 1981 Supplemental Pick of Dave Wilson cost them their Round 1, 3rd overall selection in 1982.
New York Giants 1992 Supplemental Pick of Dave Brown cost them their Round 1, 9th overall selection in 1993.
Oakland Raiders 2011 Supplemental Pick of Terrelle Pryor cost them their Round 3, 78th overall selection in 2012.

Draft Values Based On Jimmy Johnson's Draft Trade Value Chart with all selections over 224 counting as 2 points."
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