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Old 12-01-2016, 12:37 PM  
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Rob Gronkowski to have back surgery
Tomorrow per Ian Rapoport. Can't embed. Big blow to NE.

#Patriots* TE Rob Gronkowski thought he would return quickly. Instead, out several weeks. Team has already used its IR/designated to return - @Rapsheet
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:55 PM   #46
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Not being I jury prone is a pretty big skill. He's been awesome, but not near long enough.

Definitely agreed. If you gave me any guy, peak form, to win one game, I'll take Gronk.

Right now though if it's a guy's career, it's Tony G. Gronk just isn't reliable enough.
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:58 PM   #47
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You're right. The refs seems to want the Chiefs to win this year.
That is the first time in the history of mankind that those words have ever been placed together.
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:58 PM   #49
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You're right -- Gronk is an awesome blocker.


Look, Tony G was a great goddamn tight end. But Gronk is without question the best TE in NFL history, putting aside longevity. He's ****ing ridiculous. He's the Babe Ruth of TEs. Most touchdowns by a TE in a season, most yards. Only TE in NFL history to have 3 years with 10+ TDs and 1,000+ yards. The list is kinda ridiculous.

But yeah, health. Tony G was pretty damn healthy for many, many years, and Gronk just can't say the same.
The two are equal, the thing that gives Tony the edge was his dedication to being the best. Tony never made news being a belligerent idiot in the offseason because he was busy training and staying in shape. He earned the title of the best TE in history. It's so funny every few years some up and coming TE is supposed to be the greatest thing ever (Gates. Gronk...) but the fact is there will never be another TE like TG. He revolutionized the position.
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Don't worry; when we get to Pitt or NE in the playoffs, everything will be like it always was...

Same as it ever was...

Same as it ever was.
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The two are equal, the thing that gives Tony the edge was his dedication to being the best. Tony never made news being a belligerent idiot in the offseason because he was busy training and staying in shape. He earned the title of the best TE in history. It's so funny every few years some up and coming TE is supposed to be the greatest thing ever (Gates. Gronk...) but the fact is there will never be another TE like TG. He revolutionized the position.

You honestly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Gronk. While a bit of a fruitcake and such, everyone in teh Patriots organization has done nothing but commend his work ethic, football intelligence, etc. Trust me when I say that while I'm sure Tony G was a workout warrior, nobody really out-workouts Gronk. Edelman has mentioned how they will be watching TV, chilling some night, and Gronk just looks at him and says "let's do 50 pushups" out of absolutely nowhere.

He'd be perfect if he could just say healthy. Of course, he seemingly can't, and that is what it is.
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That may be, as to reception stats. Don't think Brady helps TEs block, however.

Won't matter. Gronk is 27 but this is his third back surgery. Doubt he plays to 30 to be honest...
Did you ever get a chance to watch Tony play? Guy was one of the best pass blocking TE's in the NFL. His final season in the NFL he had a 98% pass blocking efficiency. I'm curious where this idiotic statement is coming from
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You honestly have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to Gronk. While a bit of a fruitcake and such, everyone in teh Patriots organization has done nothing but commend his work ethic, football intelligence, etc. Trust me when I say that while I'm sure Tony G was a workout warrior, nobody really out-workouts Gronk. Edelman has mentioned how they will be watching TV, chilling some night, and Gronk just looks at him and says "let's do 50 pushups" out of absolutely nowhere.

He'd be perfect if he could just say healthy. Of course, he seemingly can't, and that is what it is.

Find me a picture of Tony douching out like this and we can continue your idiotic argument
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I'm curious where this idiotic statement is coming from
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Did you ever get a chance to watch Tony play? Guy was one of the best pass blocking TE's in the NFL. His final season in the NFL he had a 98% pass blocking efficiency. I'm curious where this idiotic statement is coming from

Was he, at 245 pounds, often given DEs to block 1:1? Gronk's 265 puts him in a different league.

I'm going to stop bothering now, because (1) obviously we'll need to agree to disagree, and (2) arguing against TonyG on a Chiefs board isn't worthwhile, especially when I've already said he was ****ing awesome.

Meanwhile, you may remember who was on the cover of Madden, so...

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Was he, at 245 pounds, often given DEs to block 1:1? Gronk's 265 puts him in a different league.
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And look at who he had to throw the ball to him. In an era where mostly they let the defense play as well.

Put Tony G on the Pats with Tom Brady in today's league and good God...
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You honestly have no idea what you're talking abouin the off season when it comes to Gronk. While a bit of a fruitcake and such, everyone in teh Patriots organization has done nothing but commend his work ethic, football intelligence, etc. Trust me when I say that while I'm sure Tony G was a workout warrior, nobody really out-workouts Gronk. Edelman has mentioned how they will be watching TV, chilling some night, and Gronk just looks at him and says "let's do 50 pushups" out of absolutely nowhere.

He'd be perfect if he could just say healthy. Of course, he seemingly can't, and that is what it is.
I dont recall any story of Gronks workout habits. All anyone sees of him in the off season is goofing off.
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