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Old 06-30-2016, 04:36 AM  
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:29 AM   #46
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That's your last 4 games. I bet the Raiders go 1-3 in that stretch.
That's brutal for sure. I do like the team they're building though, they appear to finally be doing something right.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:59 AM   #47
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Care to wager a sig bet on who finishes with a better record?
He's too scarred of the previous ones he made in year's past.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:03 AM   #48
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Care to wager a sig bet on who finishes with a better record?
I will if it's something simple like you wearing a raiders logo in your sig or me a cheaps logo. I don't put sigs that bash my team personally though
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:29 AM   #49
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:34 AM   #50
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:39 AM   #51
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Am I picking for a football team or a drug war? It may make a difference in my choice.

Would you want Miller on your side regardless? He's as likely to shiv you as he is the enemy.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:41 AM   #52
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as good as Mack is that defense will still give up 350 pass yards a game and get into shoothouts where Carr has to try and score 35 points a game.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:45 AM   #53
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I will if it's something simple like you wearing a raiders logo in your sig or me a cheaps logo. I don't put sigs that bash my team personally though
Ok, winner picks a positive message about the winning team and a "friendly" jab at the loser. And the winners team to be displayed positively in the sig of the loser.

Deal?
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Ok, winner picks a positive message about the winning team and a "friendly" jab at the loser. And the winners team to be displayed positively in the sig of the loser.

Deal?
Crickets still chirping 45 minutes later.
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Crickets still chirping 45 minutes later.
Both are limited in what they can do.

Houston (when healthy, and health is a big concern) is a top 5 pass rusher, top 10 run stuffer, and top 10 pass coverage OLB.

NO OTHER PLAYER CAN CLAIM THAT...
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Ok, winner picks a positive message about the winning team and a "friendly" jab at the loser. And the winners team to be displayed positively in the sig of the loser.

Deal?
sounds good... Regular season only , If they tie then the bet is off
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:55 AM   #57
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I don't live here dude, I have a job...
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I don't live here dude, I have a job...
Well quit ripping your employer off by spending time posting on here while at work. Jeez, typical faider fan.








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It's an interesting conversation.

I think when all three are healthy, I'd take Houston because of the total package.

He's elite against the run. Completely dominant.

He has the total package as a pass rusher...elite first step....elite strength....elite finisher...elite speed to track down mobile QBs...he can literally hear any OT in the league by attacking their weakness and playing off of it.

He is very good in coverage. Borderline elite for his position. He runs a 4.6 at 265, so he can run with most tight ends and can stay with backs for the time needed. He also has good instincts in coverage and finds a way to get his hand on the ball when tested.

The tough part is that he hasnt been very dependable, physically. He hasnt finished 2/3 of the last seasons due to injury.

Unfortunately, that drops him to third in a tight race. At least IMO.

Von Miller RIGHT NOW may be the best of the three, based on how he finished last season....but he also has warts. He has been suspended for drugs, has been involved in one way or another in a murder case, doesn't always give his full effort, has blown out his acl...these concerns (and others) give question on if Miller can maintain that level of play. Especially after a huge payday, a whole offseason off, the defense losing Trevathan, Bruton and Jackson and other factors like Wade Phillips defenses losing their effectiveness the longer he coaches them.

Khalil Mack is a great player (as are the other 2) and has consistently improved the more he gets experience. He doesn't have injury or off the field concerns. The management has improved the rest of that defense and that's gonna help Mack "get home" easier.

They upgraded 3 spots in the secondary with solid additions in Joseph, Smith and Nelson...those additions will make teams pause enough to give Mack more time and I can see him having a huge year as a pass rusher.

If I could pick any of the three, I'd probably take Mack.

He's the only one of the three that doesn't have warts.

I can see him getting 20-25 sacks next year.
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