Chiefs Your dream 1st/2nd round combo for next week's NFL Draft - Page 4

pugsnotdrugs19 · 06:46 PM

Alright so, try to keep these as realistic as possible obviously, but let's talk about our preferred draft choices for the Chiefs come next Thursday and Friday evening at the draft. They have the 28th and 59th overall selections. Now, obviously guys like Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey are not going to be available at 28. Likewise, we won't see players like Corey Coleman or Eli Apple at 59.

For me, I feel like this team is just a piece or two away, so I want to see immediate impact players selected if at all possible. Thus, my dream 1st and 2nd round mock...

Round 1, Pick 28: Mackensie Alexander, CB Clemson
He's brash and confident, and the tape does not lie. It won't come without some growing pains, but Alexander has the ability to step in day one and give us a great potential lockdown corner across from Marcus Peters. You can never have enough corners. The Chiefs are already in need of corner depth, but in this scenario we add it to the top of the heap. Week 1 against SD, Peters, Alexander, and Phillip Gaines form a really solid starting CB group while Steven Nelson provides great depth.

Round 2, Pick 59: Shilique Calhoun, OLB Michigan State
Here's a guy who is boom or bust. This one comes down most to me trusting Conley's development more than Ford. However, he is one of very few edge rushers in this draft that is equipped to contribute as a pass rusher immediately in the NFL. Again, a position in which you can never have enough of, this pick makes a ton of sense. Justin Houston could miss some time this season. Tamba Hali is at a point in his career where the downfall could come abruptly and unexpectedly. Dee Ford, while he has flashed, cannot be fully counted on just yet. This pick could give the Chiefs the deepest, most talented group of pass rushers in the NFL.

Your turn.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-19-2016, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're facepalming yet nothing I said was short of a fact?....

O.city · 04-19-2016, 08:13 PM

I will say in regards to attitudes and such, corners seem to be a different animal. Look at Sherman and Norman l. Alot of "different" guys there.

But if it's locker room stuff, that's a little different

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-19-2016, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I will say in regards to attitudes and such, corners seem to be a different animal. Look at Sherman and Norman l. Alot of "different" guys there.

But if it's locker room stuff, that's a little different

But it's not. Alexander is just a brash, confident player like the guys you named. Nothing to see here, just Dane looking for more BS to bitch about.

O.city · 04-19-2016, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

But it's not. Alexander is just a brash, confident player like the guys you named. Nothing to see here, just Dane looking for more BS to bitch about.

Being brash is 1 thing, but when his coaches at Clemson aren't giving him good reviews, there's alot of smoke.

Again, I'd lean towards passing or atleast understanding if they do

KevB · 04-19-2016, 08:17 PM

William Jackson III (or Hargreaves if he falls)

Chris Jones/Shepard/Fackrell (never have too many pass rushers and he's versatile)

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

You're facepalming yet nothing I said was short of a fact?....

Shut the **** up.

Teams weren't leaking that Peters interviewed poorly, dumbass.

And making a decision this year because the decision last year worked out, is dumber than ****.

Debating with a jobless, school less 19 year old bores the **** out of me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Being brash is 1 thing, but when his coaches at Clemson aren't giving him good reviews, there's alot of smoke.

Again, I'd lean towards passing or atleast understanding if they do

Yeah, when your own coaches talk shit, there's fire.

The 19 year old is a 19 year old.

Uneducated, inexperienced and naive.

O.city · 04-19-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, when your own coaches talk shit, there's fire.

The 19 year old is a 19 year old.

Uneducated, inexperienced and naive.

I'm pretty hesitant to believe much that's said right now though and in terms of the interviews and such, we have no idea how it goes.

I always leave that completely up to the front office. Whatever they think works for me here.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-19-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Shut the **** up.

Teams weren't leaking that Peters interviewed poorly, dumbass.

And making a decision this year because the decision last year worked out, is dumber than ****.

Debating with a jobless, school less 19 year old bores the **** out of me.

Damn it man, something has to be done. Whoever keeps pissing in Dane's Frosted Flakes, I hope you're reading this. Enough is enough.

We'll beat this anger and sadness together, buddy. There's a light at the end of the tunnel.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-19-2016, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, when your own coaches talk shit, there's fire.

The 19 year old is a 19 year old.

Uneducated, inexperienced and naive.

Well, you're batting .000 so far, but what's new

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2016, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm pretty hesitant to believe much that's said right now though and in terms of the interviews and such, we have no idea how it goes.

I always leave that completely up to the front office. Whatever they think works for me here.

This is the time for smokescreens and disinformation about medicals.

But anytime lockeroom shit and leadership issues leak, it's definitely a strong and truthful signal that something is wrong.

Teams may try to push a guy down by feigning disinterest but attacking guys personally is off limits, unless it's true.

O.city · 04-19-2016, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is the time for smokescreens and disinformation about medicals.

But anytime lockeroom shit and leadership issues leak, it's definitely a strong and truthful signal that something is wrong.

Teams may try to push a guy down by feigning disinterest but attacking guys personally is off limits, unless it's true.

Yeah, I don't know about all that

Not that it's wrong, I don't think anything is off limits this time of year

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-19-2016, 08:32 PM

In the past week, Doug Farrar of SI called Alexander the best CB in the draft, and Pat Kirwan mocked him to us in the first...

Shilique Calhoun was mocked two spots ahead of us in the 2nd round on a Fox Sports mock just this morning.

Seriously Dane, all I'm asking is if you're going to throw one of your little man periods, have your shit straight first.

**Rausch** · 04-19-2016, 08:36 PM

If one of the top 4 CB's is there: CB then WR.

If not trade down and go WR, CB, G (after getting our 3rd back...)

**RealSNR** · 04-19-2016, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Shitty attitude... Hmm I remember the last time we drafted a corner with that as a question mark... how's that going so far?

And FFS, being confident is a necessity at that position, not a 'shitty attitude'.

I've seen Calhoun mocked as high as the late first.

When Mackenzie Alexander plays like Marcus Peters did in college, give me a call.

They're not even close to the same prospect.

04-19-2016, 06:40 PM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9089447	Your dream 1st/2nd round combo for next week's NFL Draft Alright so, try to keep these as realistic as possible obviously, but let's talk about our preferred draft choices for the Chiefs come next Thursday and Friday evening at the draft. They have the 28th and 59th overall selections. Now, obviously guys like Carson Wentz and Jalen Ramsey are not going to be available at 28. Likewise, we won't see players like Corey Coleman or Eli Apple at 59. For me, I feel like this team is just a piece or two away, so I want to see immediate impact players selected if at all possible. Thus, my dream 1st and 2nd round mock... Round 1, Pick 28: Mackensie Alexander, CB Clemson He's brash and confident, and the tape does not lie. It won't come without some growing pains, but Alexander has the ability to step in day one and give us a great potential lockdown corner across from Marcus Peters. You can never have enough corners. The Chiefs are already in need of corner depth, but in this scenario we add it to the top of the heap. Week 1 against SD, Peters, Alexander, and Phillip Gaines form a really solid starting CB group while Steven Nelson provides great depth. Round 2, Pick 59: Shilique Calhoun, OLB Michigan State Here's a guy who is boom or bust. This one comes down most to me trusting Conley's development more than Ford. However, he is one of very few edge rushers in this draft that is equipped to contribute as a pass rusher immediately in the NFL. Again, a position in which you can never have enough of, this pick makes a ton of sense. Justin Houston could miss some time this season. Tamba Hali is at a point in his career where the downfall could come abruptly and unexpectedly. Dee Ford, while he has flashed, cannot be fully counted on just yet. This pick could give the Chiefs the deepest, most talented group of pass rushers in the NFL. Your turn. Last edited by pugsnotdrugs19; 04-19-2016 at 06:46 PM..
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04-19-2016, 08:13 PM	#47
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2354064	I will say in regards to attitudes and such, corners seem to be a different animal. Look at Sherman and Norman l. Alot of "different" guys there. But if it's locker room stuff, that's a little different
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04-19-2016, 08:17 PM	#50
KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	William Jackson III (or Hargreaves if he falls) Chris Jones/Shepard/Fackrell (never have too many pass rushers and he's versatile)
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04-19-2016, 08:32 PM	#58
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9089447	In the past week, Doug Farrar of SI called Alexander the best CB in the draft, and Pat Kirwan mocked him to us in the first... Shilique Calhoun was mocked two spots ahead of us in the 2nd round on a Fox Sports mock just this morning. Seriously Dane, all I'm asking is if you're going to throw one of your little man periods, have your shit straight first.
Posts: 26,383